And the Government shall be upon His shoulders

[Fez]

One of the symbols of authority in the OT was the ephod, which was connected with shoulder pieces that Aaron and the priests wore. The shoulder pieces were in a way symbols of Government.

Exo 28:6 "And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue and purple and scarlet yarns, and of fine twined linen, skillfully worked.

Exo 28:7 It shall have two shoulder pieces attached to its two edges, so that it may be joined together.

Exo 39:4 They made for the ephod attaching shoulder pieces, joined to it at its two edges.

Exo 39:5 And the skillfully woven band on it was of one piece with it and made like it, of gold, blue and purple and scarlet yarns, and fine twined linen, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

Exo 39:6 They made the onyx stones, enclosed in settings of gold filigree, and engraved like the engravings of a signet, according to the names of the sons of Israel.

Exo 39:7 And he set them on the shoulder pieces of the ephod to be stones of remembrance for the sons of Israel, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Just an observation, but a visiting pastor at our church tonight connected the two, which I tought was interesting. I have always wondered what the full "government shall be on His shoulder", meant.

I guess there is a lot more that can be said, but this seems to be the foundation of the scripture?

[Guest shiloh357]

That is an excellent correllation, Fez!! I don't know if that is what Isaiah had in mind, but this is something I am going to study and chew on. It has the ring of truth.

[~candice~]

Awesome Fez!

[Sian12]

I think it's an excellent correlation, too. I've never thought of the imagery of government being 'on His shoulders' as in he carries it and has responsibility for it as the priests who wore the ephod had responsibility.

[nebula]

That's neat! Thanks for sharing!

[Openly Curious]

As some of the others have said that this is a wonderful subject and I agree with them. It is one of those subjects that can take us far indepth in scripture in the prophecy in Isaiah 9:6--For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

There is already details of this prophecy that has already been fulfilled. But this prophecy has only been partially fulfilled in parts, the final and complete fulfillment will be complete in the end-times during 1000 year reign of peace at the second coming of Christ.

Like I mentioned there are prophecies on the subject of "the government shall be upon his shoulders." In the book of Isaiah 6:9-10(a)---starts the prophecy up to Isaiah 9:7--- Then in the NT you can read of the fullfilment of the parts of the prophecy but as I already said will be completely fullfilled in the end-times The scripture on the subject is a lot to write out I'll just give the prophecy, the subject, and the fulfillment of them hope it works out.

Isaiah 6:9-10(a)---The Jews had a hard heart against the Messiah when he came to this earth.-John 12:37-40

Isaiah 6:9-10(b)--- the Messiah would speak in parables---.Matthew 13:-15---Isaiah 7:13-14

Messiah would be a discendant of David---Matthew 1:1---Isaiah 7:14(a)--- Messiah would be born of a virgin Luke 1:34-35--- Isaiah 7:14(b)--- Messiah would be Immanuel, "God Is With Us"-- Matthew 1:21-23 Isaiah 7:14©---Messiah would be God--- John 12:45---Isaiah 8:14---Messiah would be a stumbling block for the Jews ---Matthew 21:43-44--- Isaiah 9:1-2(a)--- In Galilee the Messiah would minister at--- Matthew 4:12-17---Isaiah 9:1-2(b)---Messiah would be a light to the Gentiles---Luke 28-32---Isaiah 9:6(a)--- Messiah was born--- Luke 2:11---Isaiah 9:6©---Messiah would be a "Wonderful, Counsellor"---John 7:46---Isaiah 9:6(d)---The "Mighty God" the Messiah would be both God and man---John 10:30---Isaiah 9:6(e)---the "Everlasting Father"--- as Messiah would be from everlasting---Revelation 1:8

Isaiah 9:6(f)---Messiah would be "Prince of Peace"---Colossians 1:20---Isaiah 9:7---a descendent of David the Messiah would be---Matthew 1:1

Back in Isaiah 7:13---it speaks (you can go back and read) about the "house of David which is speaking about the royal descendents from David refering to those who would sit on the throne of Israel. This has importance to it because Jesus was a descendant of David and he will in the Millenial reign that will happen at the second coming of Christ sit on the throne of Israel.---Psalms 2--(is a good read in conjuntion with Christ sitting on the throne of Israel--the throne of David---Isaiah 7:14---mentions that this particular descendant would be born of a virgin, and be "Immanuel," which means "God with us."----Isaiah 7:13-14---both of these scripture here shows to us the "sign" to the "house of David" and that the kingdom of Israel wouldn't be disposed of nor would it lose it's identity until the virgin birth of the Messiah.

Moving on further in---Isaiah 7:15-16---tells about a second sign, being a sign to Ahaz who was the King of Judah but the sign given to Ahaz was that the two enemies that he feared being Northern Israel and Syria would be laid waist or destroyed by the time when Isaiah's son Shear-Jashub--Isaiah 7:3--grew up.

All the way back to Genesis 3:15---it had been prophesied that "the Messiah" would be born of the "seed of a woman" Then over in Isaiah 7:14---in this portion we've been looking at is a continuation of the virgin birth of Messiah.

Matthew 1:23---tells us that the name Immanuel means "God Is With Us," Immanuel the name shows us the literal event or time when God becomes a man and dwelling among us,---Isaiah 9:6---(Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace).---Jeremiah 23:5-6---(The LORD our Righteousness) and it gives other examples of names being applied to the Messiah that gives us sight into the nature and characteristic of Messiah.

Isaiah 9:6---is a progression of the Saviour to be born started in Genesis 3:15---and it is still being continued in Isaiah 7:14---Just the concept "for unto us a son is given" can be realized without a doubt be seen fulfilled in---

John 3:16---"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."---Isaiah 9:6---For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder.---and will be manifested at the second coming of Christ which during this time period he will fulfill his judgment upon the nations.---And during this time period known as the 1000 yrs. millenial Reign of Christ being a 1000 years of Peace we the saints shall also rule and reign with Christ during this time period. During the 1000 yrs. reign the prophecy "and the government shall be upon his shoulder" will be fulfilled one hundred percent the "Word of God reigns, being Jesus Christ."

[nebula]

OC -

May I borrow that in the debate I am engaged in with A Muslim (somewhere in the Outer Court)?

[Openly Curious]

OC -

May I borrow that in the debate I am engaged in with A Muslim (somewhere in the Outer Court)?

Yes, feel free hope it will help in some way in your debate with the Muslim in the Outer Court......oc

[Littlelambseativy]

But the government that is on His shoulder is the 'key of the House of David' it is the key that is on HIs shoulder. Isaiah 22:22

²² The key of the house of David

I will lay on his shoulder;

So he shall open, and no one shall shut;

And he shall shut, and no one shall open.

No where in the Bible is it mentioned that Jesus wears an ephod though He is a priest after the order of Melchizedek.

A friend who is interested in keys and has a vast collection of them was at the British museum and saw the keys from that era and had a duplicate made. Those keys were so large and heavy that they were placed upon the shoulder. That is the key of government - the Key of the House of David. That is the symbol of authority that Jesus has as the direct descendant of David. That is the key that permits Him to open and none shall shut and shut and none shall open.

[Openly Curious]

But the government that is on His shoulder is the 'key of the House of David' it is the key that is on HIs shoulder. Isaiah 22:22

²² The key of the house of David

I will lay on his shoulder;

So he shall open, and no one shall shut;

And he shall shut, and no one shall open.

No where in the Bible is it mentioned that Jesus wears an ephod though He is a priest after the order of Melchizedek.

A friend who is interested in keys and has a vast collection of them was at the British museum and saw the keys from that era and had a duplicate made. Those keys were so large and heavy that they were placed upon the shoulder. That is the key of government - the Key of the House of David. That is the symbol of authority that Jesus has as the direct descendant of David. That is the key that permits Him to open and none shall shut and shut and none shall open.

Job 12:14--Behold, he breaketh down, and it cannot be built again: he shutteth up a man, and there can be no opening.

Jesus was our High Priest but he never wore the priest garments neither did he minister when it came dealing with the work of the sacrifices so I agree Jesus never wore an ephod. God spoke to the priest through the ephod but the prtesthood and the sacrifisal offerings were being done away with during Christ's sacrifice on the cross as the Lord's anger was appeased. The blood of bulls and goats could never make us holy as they had to be continually offered up daily. But Jesus was the sacrifice the one spotless lamb without sin who died once for all and sprinkled his own blood on the mercy seat as he ever liveth and makes intercession for us. In the last days God is speaking to us through the Lord Jesus Christ and no longer through the ephod to the priesthood.

Jesus holds the keys to death, hell and the grave as Satan no longer holds them as Jesus triumped over principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly triumping over them in it. Jesus took our record of sins out of the way, nailing them to the cross made holy by the sprinkling of our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. Jesus was the firstfruits from the ressurection of the dead and all of the saints shall arise from the dead just as Jesus did.

However, I do fail to see or understand your comment, "it is the key that is upon his shoulder." I don't see how the government shall be upon his shoulder be related to the "keys" on his shoulder Can you explain more in detail what your meaning is concerning government vs. keys as they are so different from one another ?......thanks