Should Christians participate in Hallowe'en

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Now are we trying to see how much of the world and the love of the world we can cram into our lives, or are we seeking holiness, goodness, purity, love, virtue?

Amen! It is all about Him!

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You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Larry, as I am to mine. I do hope you apply that standard in every single area of your life. BTW - I would like to know what names you use for our days of the week, since the names we have are of pagan roots? You know - "Monday" is for the moongod, Thursday for "Thor" etc. And what names do you use for the names of the months? I'm interested in the alternatives for Christians. Oh, and do you wear a necktie? And, when your wife buys a present for a new baby, she doesn't buy something in pink or blue to match the sex of the child does she? Thanks.

[GymRose]

I have looked into this very closely because our eldest wanted to know why christians don't go trick or treating and found terrible reasons why I will not acknowledge the day at all. I could not believe the things I found out and especially things that the FBI are watching specific cults for leading up to Halloween that involve children and babies born specifically for Halloween that are too horrific to mention on an open board.

People do horrific things on this day that us as unsuspecting "normal" folk have no idea about and they are not myths but real events. Did anyone here know there is a purpose to the riding a broom thing ........... and it aint to fly! I had no idea. And as for spells there are things we know nothing about in the supernatural world.

NO CHRISTANS SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE!!!!!

[sachi]

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And, while I am respecting your decision, please respect mine when I dress up and trick or treat and hang some pumpkins in my window. Thanks.

No one said anything about not respecting your decision or your right to DO something. It's a question open for discussion. That is all.

However, if you will not have anything to do with anything that has pagan roots, then you also must not use the names of the days of the week, or the months of the year, (what names do you use, may I ask? ) or wear a necktie (or have your husband wear one), or color Easter eggs, or hang up cute 'lil bunnies at Easter, or a thousand other every day things that have pagan roots. If you do any of those, then your argument is not credible IMO.

However, you make a good point.

Our western culture has practices ( for eg St Patricks Day) and mythologies from the many various cultural origins . The English language has broad roots into many cultures and religious heritages . It is true for instance the days of the weeks refer to old Nordic gods. In the same spirit, the planets and many constellations for instance are named after Roman /Greek gods.

However there is a difference. Assimilating and integrating language / words from other cultures IS DIFFERENT FROM a parallal observation of and participating in religious high 'holy' days of pagan religions. Don't you think . . .?

Edited September 14, 2004 by sachi

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I have looked into this very closely because our eldest wanted to know why christians don't go trick or treating and found terrible reasons why I will not acknowledge the day at all. I could not believe the things I found out and especially things that the FBI are watching specific cults for leading up to Halloween that involve children and babies born specifically for Halloween that are too horrific to mention on an open board.

People do horrific things on this day that us as unsuspecting "normal" folk have no idea about and they are not myths but real events. Did anyone here know there is a purpose to the riding a broom thing ........... and it aint to fly! I had no idea. And as for spells there are things we know nothing about in the supernatural world.

NO CHRISTANS SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE!!!!!

You are so right. Every demon, witch and warlock are out on that night doing evil. More so than any other night. I know, I have spoken to former witches.....it is nothing to do with a fun night of getting candy it is a spiritual battle that is taking place. We are to be in this world and not of it.

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There was also a purpose to the "trick-or-treating". It was going door to door, asking for money for the food for the festival to celebrate the harvest.

I would hope everyone at least gets the info on all of it before deciding what is right for their family. I would avoid all conspiracy theories. (Somehow I feel a Chick publication coming on soon, lol)

Rose, yeah, there are some freaks who do stuff like that. It's the exception, not the rule, and people pervert normal, harmless things every day of the year. That doesn't make the the thing wrong. That makes those perverted freaks wrong. Big difference. And satanists do that ALL year, not just one time a year. However, you seem strong in your convictions, I respect that. But to be dogmatic about it and attempt to be the Holy Spirit in someone else's life is an entirely different matter. (see "gray area" thread. )

[3in1]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Larry, as I am to mine. I do hope you apply that standard in every single area of your life. BTW - I would like to know what names you use for our days of the week, since the names we have are of pagan roots? You know - "Monday" is for the moongod, Thursday for "Thor" etc. And what names do you use for the names of the months? I'm interested in the alternatives for Christians. Oh, and do you wear a necktie? And, when your wife buys a present for a new baby, she doesn't buy something in pink or blue to match the sex of the child does she? Thanks.

great points! i would also ask is it wrong to go on date w/ your mate on Valentines Day?

in Christ

[GymRose]

Here is one link on the meaning of practices.

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/halloween.htm

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And, while I am respecting your decision, please respect mine when I dress up and trick or treat and hang some pumpkins in my window. Thanks.

No one said anything about not respecting your decision or your right to DO something. It's a question open for discussion. That is all.

However, if you will not have anything to do with anything that has pagan roots, then you also must not use the names of the days of the week, or the months of the year, (what names do you use, may I ask? ) or wear a necktie (or have your husband wear one), or color Easter eggs, or hang up cute 'lil bunnies at Easter, or a thousand other every day things that have pagan roots. If you do any of those, then your argument is not credible IMO.

However, you make a good point.

Our western culture has practices ( for eg St Patricks Day) and mythologies from the many various cultural origins . The English language has broad roots into many cultures and religious heritages . It is true for instance the days of the weeks refer to old Nordic gods. In the same spirit, the planets and many constellations for instance are named after Roman /Greek gods.

However there is a difference. Assimilating and integrating language / words from other cultures IS DIFFERENT FROM a parallal observation of and participating in religious high 'holy' days of pagan religions. Don't you think . . .?

Sachi, your post was not merely a question. It seemed to be a thinly veiled condemnation of the observance of Halloween with statements produced as fact that are not necessarily true. They may be what you believe, but they are not undisputed fact. If it was merely a question for debate - why didn't you present more than one side to the debate?

However there is a difference. Assimilating and integrating language / words from other cultures IS DIFFERENT FROM a parallal observation of and participating in religious high 'holy' days of pagan religions. Don't you think . . .?

Again, you make statements as fact that are not fact. Satanists laugh at the assumption that it is the "high holy day". They get a real kick out of Christians that think that. And it's great for them - the less truth we know about them, the better it is for them. They love it that we have all these 'beliefs' about them. It's good cover. And another reason to laugh at Christians.

And, no, I don't think there is any difference. If someone is going to dogmatically state that "Christians have no business observing Halloween because of it's "pagan roots", then that person better get the plank out of his eye and make sure nothing in his life that he does or participates in has pagan roots, since "pagan roots" is so evil. "integrating language/words from other cultures"?? That sounds nicer, but no, it's using the PAGAN names, which is an unspoken implication that that is just fine and acceptable. It is engaging in pagan practice. No difference IMO.

Thank you for your thoughts. I gotta go to bed - 6:00 a.m comes too early. Goodnight.

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Rose, I hope this isn't going to turn into a link war. We can all find and post any number of links to "back up" our beliefs. I don't think any of us here are going to look at one and suddenly decide to change our beliefs.