Should Christians participate in Hallowe'en

[Catsmeow]

Kelsc: I like your dogs...they're a much more pleasant conversation at this point.

From a "MAJOR" animal person! :a:

[keslc]

Kelsc: I like your dogs...they're a much more pleasant conversation at this point.

From a "MAJOR" animal person! :a:

Thanks! The middle one looks like my puppy!

[senerhu]

iff'n I had kids old enough....I'd send them out to get me some candy....

[Trinity]

iff'n I had kids old enough....I'd send them out to get me some candy....

Yeah... i can't wait to have kids to do that for me...

Me: "Hey kids, you want to make some money?"

Kids: "Yeah!"

Me: "Well, Im going to drop you off in North Jersey, and ill meet you in Cape may, Oh... yeah, you have to stop at every ones house on the Way down to CapeMay and say "Trick or Treat" and collect the candy for ME!"

Kids: Anything for you daddy"

[senerhu]

iff'n I had kids old enough....I'd send them out to get me some candy....

Yeah... i can't wait to have kids to do that for me...

Me: "Hey kids, you want to make some money?"

Kids: "Yeah!"

Me: "Well, Im going to drop you off in North Jersey, and ill meet you in Cape may, Oh... yeah, you have to stop at every ones house on the Way down to CapeMay and say "Trick or Treat" and collect the candy for ME!"

Kids: Anything for you daddy"

My brother sleep walked and took a leek in my candy sack...I was robbed... :suspect:

[Guest yod]

Dear all,

This is just my opinion. You don't have to accept it if you dislike it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

Well, as a non-christian, I am free to celebrate halloween without a guilty conscience.

I symbolically give each person in this thread some symbolic candy, so you don't have to feel bad about "trick or treating."

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

gosh...I hate to think about how stupid we must look to you fighting over this kind of trivial bullcorn.

[Trinity]

Dear all,

This is just my opinion.  You don't have to accept it if you dislike it.  DISCLAIMER:  I am not a christian.

Well, as a non-christian, I am free to celebrate halloween without a guilty conscience.

I symbolically give each person in this thread some symbolic candy, so you don't have to feel bad about "trick or treating."

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

gosh...I hate to think about how stupid we must look to you fighting over this kind of trivial bullcorn.

hahaha i know

[Kabowd]

Dear all,

This is just my opinion.  You don't have to accept it if you dislike it.  DISCLAIMER:  I am not a christian.

Well, as a non-christian, I am free to celebrate halloween without a guilty conscience.

I symbolically give each person in this thread some symbolic candy, so you don't have to feel bad about "trick or treating."

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

gosh...I hate to think about how stupid we must look to you fighting over this kind of trivial bullcorn.

Speaking of that, I was curious about this too so I asked my friend Nik (aka ScientificAtheist) what he thought.

Me: As an "non-Christian" how do you perceive Christians who totally seperate themselves from "worldly" things. Such as those who say "I don't participate in Halloween"..?

Nik: I think they're probably scared of changing their own opinions and views, or should I say, more scared than other Christians...I also think that it probably doesn't help them in evangelising, if that's what they do.

Me: Do you perceive Christians who are paranoid about the "world" and being seperate to be weak in their faith?

Nik: Do I percieve them to be weak in their faith? Well, yes, I suppose some of them are - but that's not the whole story. I think you captured it well when you said that they might be more worried about what other people think about them.

You see, the Christian community from what I've seen of it is intensely judgemental, and riddled with backbiting and gossip. This of course, as far as I can tell, is totally against the spirit of the bible and the New Testament - but it would seem that many believers treat each other far worse than anyone else. I see all sorts of accusations flying about concerning who is and isn't a Christian - who does and doesn't qualify to get into heavan - and behind closed doors, in private conversations, I hear a lot of quite nasty gossip about people.

So people in the Christian community can become very paranoid about their peers, and that makes them start to care more about what other Christians think about them than what God thinks about them. What they ought to remember is that only God knows their heart - and that no matter how stupid or misled they might seem to the outside world, the real test is whether or not they are right with God.

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Very, very interesting insight I thought. (btw..Nik gave me permission to quote him)

[RGR]

iff'n I had kids old enough....I'd send them out to get me some candy....

Yeah... i can't wait to have kids to do that for me...

Me: "Hey kids, you want to make some money?"

Kids: "Yeah!"

Me: "Well, Im going to drop you off in North Jersey, and ill meet you in Cape may, Oh... yeah, you have to stop at every ones house on the Way down to CapeMay and say "Trick or Treat" and collect the candy for ME!"

Kids: Anything for you daddy"

My brother sleep walked and took a leek in my candy sack...I was robbed... :suspect:

:oww:

[Nicks Girl]

This apparantly is not true at all.

What isn't true?

Evil things happen EVERY day.

Yes they do. But Every other day Christians aren't joining in on a SPECIAL day that Satanists have to glorify their practices.

Well, why do you suppose that is?

Because it's origins weren't COMPLETELY evil, or pagan, and Christians adopted it as their own MANY years ago.

Yes we can. And on Halloween, we can focus on Jesus birth. Or we can focus on the saints before us, who have impacted us all. Or we can run and hide.

You can do what you want on Halloween. ArtsyLady, don't twist what the people who object to Halloween have said. I do not "run and hide" I spend the day and evening like every other day of the year.

You were raised to believe that Halloween is totally evil, right? You're probably in your early 20's or younger, right? Because before that, it wasn't considered so terrible and awful. And it sure seems that the costumes are getting scarier and the night even more 'evil' at about the same rate that the Christians are bowing out of this altogether. Do you have an opinion on this? Have you thought about it?

No, I was not raised to believe that Halloween is totally evil. My parents had always taken me and my siblings trick or treating, and passed out Candy, etc. Do you know why before the 80's or so it wasn't "considered so terrible and awful"? Because people weren't educated on it's roots and history, also on what STILL happens on that night. Christians participating in "dressing up" and passing out candy is NOT going to change the fact that costumes are getting more evil, or scary, or that satanists still use it as their night. It's not going to change the fact that tons of children and animals are used in human and animal sacrafices, and tortured. By letting your family go out and collect candy, what difference is that making? And again, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with collecting candy, or dressing up as something cute (providing its not an evil costume), but what is the point? You're trying to argue that if Christians would only take part in dressing up and eating candy, they could change the satanists? They could stop what goes on? Talk to a Satanist sometime. Talk to someone who was USED in those rituals, and see what they think of Halloween. The candy collecting, and dressing up is only a mask for the darker side of Halloween. Halloween isn't about the candy or costumes.

Well, that's what the Muslims have said all along. Christians have not always thought so.

You need to read up on your history.

During the first two hundred years in America, Halloween was not observed; many of the Protestant settlers rejected the holiday along with other feasts on the calendar of the Roman Church.

With the large Irish immigration in the 1840's, the holiday became more popular. Many of the old Celtic beliefs and practices were perpetuated in its celebration. Now at the end of the twentieth century, Halloween has become an important holiday to the growing number of believers in Satanism and practitioners of the occult.

You can read more on this here History on Halloween in Early America

Here is another site about The History of Halloween in America and ChristianityThe Watchman Expositor: Halloween Profile

I just put in a search on google Christian and non Christian sites alike showed the Halloween wasn't celebrated by Christians until the late 1800's, because many non Christian, pagans, and occultists brought their traditions with them when they immigrated to America.