How biblical is this?

[Openly Curious]

I don't believe in "generational curses". My mom grew up being sexually, physically and emotionally abused until she was 16 and met my dad. He took her out of her parents house and got her a place to stay (with his sister and her husband). She became a christian a few months later and five years later she got married to my Dad. My mom is an AMAZING woman. Despite all of the things that she has gone through she has NEVER felt sorry for herself. She is an extremely gentle and caring woman and I LOVE HER TO DEATH. If I become HALF the woman she is I will be blessed.

Sierra

We all have individual choices in life who and what we want to become once we become an adult. We learn both good and bad when we grow up in this world and have to ultimately choose to do the right and shun the wrong or vice versa.

I am glad to hear of the good testimony of your mother and the example of God's grace in your life.

OC

[Rebmilc]

What you guys are saying made me think of a verse of scripture.

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it". (Proverbs 22:6)

If you think about it that verse of scripture is always used by Christians to encourage other Christians to train up their children in the things of God and I have no problem with that, I think it is correct and have seen it happen many times.

But some of the posts made me think that perhaps there is a "Negative" aspect to this verse too. I.e if you train up a child in violence, abuse and hatred that child will not depart from those principles. I have also seen many instances of that, as I am sure many of you have too.

It may not be true in every sense and the blood of Christ CAN & WILL break us free from that cycle and bondage if we let Jesus into the equation.

Take for instance Palestinian Children being taught from birth to hate Israel, we see the outworking of that now in the news on a daily basis.

Obviously I am not saying that this is true in every instance because that is obviously not the case.

However perhaps some meditation on this verse of Scripture may reveal that there is a "Negative" & a "Positive" side to this verse.

It is just another reminder of what a great and awesome responsibility we have as parents.

Just never thought about this particular verse in this way before.

Edited October 30, 2006 by Rebmilc

[Openly Curious]

Hello Rebmilc,

There is also the story in the old testament about Eli and his two sons in which he would not discipline and they were priest in the temple doing all kind of wrong things.

But we still live in a world where there is both right (good) and wrong (bad) we are exposed as children to them both in this world.

I understand what you are saying that the children of Christians if raised in the fear of God will more than likely return to it if they depart from it and I think it is because of the knowledge of God that was instilled in them while young.

I think it is sad to have to be a grown adult who was not trained in the fear of God and without any knowledge of God to start their Christian walk with out any grounding from childhood but it does happen.

Then you have juveniles who are tried as adults for their crimes they commit because they do know right from wrong at the time and are very aware of what they did and need to be tried as adults. You also have the flip side of that as well children who commit crimes without the knowledge that they did anything wrong as right and wrong has not been established in their minds yet.

Then they are the mental disabilities cases in which things are done because they don't have the mental compacity to know right from wrong but these are not in question as far as I see the topic.

But what would a generational curse be? Is a good question that should be asked. No matter what sins my parents did before me they will give account to them personally and not me. I will only give account of my own personal sins. So what would a generational curse really be that I would be personally responsible for to renounce before God and men that places me under a curse?

It seems like a double dose of false guilt being placed upon one's shoulder for naught.

Ezekiel chapter 18 explains things very well if one will take the time to read it as it talks about the soul that sinneth shall die and those that do right shall live in light of them following in or not following in their parents footsteps. If the parents are wicked and the children turn and do the right they shall live but if their parents are righteous and the children turn to wickedness in life then they shall die.

This is letting the parents have peace of mind if their children are in fact raised in the fear and admonition of the Lord and choose to go in the wrong way in life despite their upbringing then it is not the parents fault but the child will bear the burden of choosing their own path in life.

I know alot of parents seems to be guilty if their children do not serve the Lord in their adult life and they shouldn't feel guilty as they did what they was suppose to do but each of us has a freewill to exercise and some will choose the darkness over the light unfortunately and the parents should not wear false guilt in this regards.

OC

[Openly Curious]

I've been hearing alot about generational curses. How biblical is this?

God Bless You

Jacqueline

The concept of generational curses is very scripturally sound.

Hello 'hr.jr.',

I would be interested in these concepts in which you speak about and scriptural references that show these concepts that generational curses exist.

And also how they exist explain what they are and what to do about them.

OC

[undone]

I've been hearing alot about generational curses. How biblical is this?

God Bless You

Jacqueline

The concept of generational curses is very scripturally sound.

Hello 'hr.jr.',

I would be interested in these concepts in which you speak about and scriptural references that show these concepts that generational curses exist.

And also how they exist explain what they are and what to do about them.

OC

Since I restarted this thread, let me try to help. First, for a scripture reference see below:

Numbers 14:17-19 (New International Version)

17 "Now may the Lord's strength be displayed, just as you have declared: 18 'The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.' 19 In accordance with your great love, forgive the sin of these people, just as you have pardoned them from the time they left Egypt until now.

Next, if you haven't done so yet, go back to page 2 of this thread and read the post I re-open this topic with.

[Floatingaxe]

Mareesta,

That is good news! But a word of caution to you: Even if you are unaware of a sin in your life, you are still guilty of it, until repentance. Ignorance of a sin is no excuse before God. I am telling you this so that you will not teach that to other new believers, as it is an erroneous belief.

Not good news at all Axe

that is, if you consider that I was sinning when I knew not the sin.....to me, that makes no sense....that I did not know the sin, but I am guilty of what I did not know. Very strange thought. However, once I knew it was a sin, then if I did it again....oh yes, I would be sinning. What you are saying is like accusing a blind man of looking at a naked lady and calling it sin. No, I gave up even thinking about what I did when I knew not.....but I am very aware of what I do know.

That's right. We are all guilty of our sin whether or not we are aware of it. Thank the Lord God that His Holy Spirit convicted you of that, which is His job, and that you responded the way He desired!

People will see Hell for such things as not knowing. You have been blessed by the Lord because you have been enlightened!

[jackie d]

Just because you may not have discovered a generational curse in your family, doesn't mean they do not exist. They do. Fortunate are those who don't have one! Praise belongs to God for that protective hand.

Yes generational curses are very real.....

[Guest mareesta]

Mareesta,

That is good news! But a word of caution to you: Even if you are unaware of a sin in your life, you are still guilty of it, until repentance. Ignorance of a sin is no excuse before God. I am telling you this so that you will not teach that to other new believers, as it is an erroneous belief.

Not good news at all Axe

that is, if you consider that I was sinning when I knew not the sin.....to me, that makes no sense....that I did not know the sin, but I am guilty of what I did not know. Very strange thought. However, once I knew it was a sin, then if I did it again....oh yes, I would be sinning. What you are saying is like accusing a blind man of looking at a naked lady and calling it sin. No, I gave up even thinking about what I did when I knew not.....but I am very aware of what I do know.

That's right. We are all guilty of our sin whether or not we are aware of it. Thank the Lord God that His Holy Spirit convicted you of that, which is His job, and that you responded the way He desired!

People will see Hell for such things as not knowing. You have been blessed by the Lord because you have been enlightened!

WOW.....are you serious Axe

that people will go to hell simply for not knowing. I don't really believe that and please don't try to convince me. I simply cannot understand that anyone would consider not knowing a sin. A sin is something you have to know, want to do, and do it. I don't believe babies go to hell. They haven't even sinned. They haven't even thought. But I know that many people believe as you do.

[Floatingaxe]

Mareesta,

That is good news! But a word of caution to you: Even if you are unaware of a sin in your life, you are still guilty of it, until repentance. Ignorance of a sin is no excuse before God. I am telling you this so that you will not teach that to other new believers, as it is an erroneous belief.

Not good news at all Axe

that is, if you consider that I was sinning when I knew not the sin.....to me, that makes no sense....that I did not know the sin, but I am guilty of what I did not know. Very strange thought. However, once I knew it was a sin, then if I did it again....oh yes, I would be sinning. What you are saying is like accusing a blind man of looking at a naked lady and calling it sin. No, I gave up even thinking about what I did when I knew not.....but I am very aware of what I do know.

That's right. We are all guilty of our sin whether or not we are aware of it. Thank the Lord God that His Holy Spirit convicted you of that, which is His job, and that you responded the way He desired!

People will see Hell for such things as not knowing. You have been blessed by the Lord because you have been enlightened!

WOW.....are you serious Axe

that people will go to hell simply for not knowing. I don't really believe that and please don't try to convince me. I simply cannot understand that anyone would consider not knowing a sin. A sin is something you have to know, want to do, and do it. I don't believe babies go to hell. They haven't even sinned. They haven't even thought. But I know that many people believe as you do.

Yep, because it's true, dear.

[Guest mareesta]

WOW.....are you serious Axe

that people will go to hell simply for not knowing. I don't really believe that and please don't try to convince me. I simply cannot understand that anyone would consider not knowing a sin. A sin is something you have to know, want to do, and do it. I don't believe babies go to hell. They haven't even sinned. They haven't even thought. But I know that many people believe as you do.

Yep, because it's true, dear.