Maybe Elenin is a non event . . .

[BlindSeeker]

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[goldust59]

Quite thought provoking on many levels, considering how things are shaping up in the world. We should definitely be watching for the signs in the heavens & most importantly, be allowing the Father to work in us the bringing of each of us to full maturity & unity in Christ.

[nebula]

If the Lord chooses to use a comet as a sign, OK.

But if one wants to claim the comet actually being responsible for such activity, there are serious problems with the claim.

As for the earthquake correlation, I'd like to refer you to the calculations presented on this page - scroll down to posts 16-18.

The charts are in the link, but the conclusions are:

1) "So she's actually off by ~5 days. Taking into account that the Sun/Elenin angle changes by over 1 degree per day, she's also off by ~6 degrees. I mean, if there was indeed a magic angle, the earthquake would happen at 170 degrees, not at 176, right?"

2) "...I mean, if it is an earthquake predictor, then the angle should be the same on both dates. However, this is magic, so we can be a bit more flexible, and require the angles to be within +/- 6 degrees of each other. (The woman gets 5.71 degree error with Elenin). Okay, I run the code...

Out of 209 comets in database, 33 (15.79%) pass the test. P/1997 C1 (Gehrels) has the best fit, with only 0.43 degrees difference. 237P/LINEAR is a close second, forming the same angle with the Sun on both dates with 0.46 degree error. The bronze medal goes to 29P/Schwassmann-Wachmann, which has it right down to 0.58 degrees. Another recently famous contestant, C/2006 Q1 (McNaught) erred 1.06 degrees, landing sixth place, just 0.12 degrees worse than CL94 (Lemmon)... Everyone's favorite, C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a huge disappointment at #33 with 5.71 degree error."

and

3) "There are 32 other comets which "predict" the Japan earthquake better then Elenin.

In fact, there are almost certainly more such comets, for the simple reason that I used the Minor Planet Center database, which lists only 209 comets, and I am quite sure that the Solar System has a lot of comets which are undiscovered / too small / whatever to be registered by MPC.

I understand that lack of reliable methods of earthquake prediction can be frustrating, but comets are worthless for this purpose. Period."

[nebula]

This is concerning since the Sun is presently going through its 11 year cycle where it polarity changes, this can be read here in a NASA statement back in 2001 at the last polar shift. However, this shift is expected to have massive solar storms that could literally threaten the all technology on earth. An excellent video of a solar flare that erupted on July 7th is here. Back in 2006 NASA issued a warning concerning these solar storms, news video here.

Except that solar scientists are finding evidence that the Sun is being unusually quit rather than increasing activity.

And yes, the threat of solar flares is real; however there has yet to be an ejection that actually produced the said threat. Not saying it can't happen, just that it's tiring hearing about threats that have never materialized. We'll have to see on this one.

[ayin jade]

Folks make far too much about the significance of a comet. Unless it slams into the earth, its impact on earth is negligible. Pretty to look at though.

[nebula]

Pretty to look at though.

Yes. But without a telescope, this one won't be seen, apparently.

[other one]

This is concerning since the Sun is presently going through its 11 year cycle where it polarity changes, this can be read here in a NASA statement back in 2001 at the last polar shift. However, this shift is expected to have massive solar storms that could literally threaten the all technology on earth. An excellent video of a solar flare that erupted on July 7th is here. Back in 2006 NASA issued a warning concerning these solar storms, news video here.

Except that solar scientists are finding evidence that the Sun is being unusually quit rather than increasing activity.

And yes, the threat of solar flares is real; however there has yet to be an ejection that actually produced the said threat. Not saying it can't happen, just that it's tiring hearing about threats that have never materialized. We'll have to see on this one.

Neb, during the late 1800's we were hit with a CME that messed with our whole telegraph system. I've read that it actually set some of the equipment on fire, and the voltages were so high that it would severely shock the telegraph operators. If that same thing happened today it would cause a real mess.

[Guest]

This is concerning since the Sun is presently going through its 11 year cycle where it polarity changes, this can be read here in a NASA statement back in 2001 at the last polar shift. However, this shift is expected to have massive solar storms that could literally threaten the all technology on earth. An excellent video of a solar flare that erupted on July 7th is here. Back in 2006 NASA issued a warning concerning these solar storms, news video here.

Except that solar scientists are finding evidence that the Sun is being unusually quit rather than increasing activity.

And yes, the threat of solar flares is real; however there has yet to be an ejection that actually produced the said threat. Not saying it can't happen, just that it's tiring hearing about threats that have never materialized. We'll have to see on this one.

Neb, during the late 1800's we were hit with a CME that messed with our whole telegraph system. I've read that it actually set some of the equipment on fire, and the voltages were so high that it would severely shock the telegraph operators. If that same thing happened today it would cause a real mess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

[goldust59]

This is concerning since the Sun is presently going through its 11 year cycle where it polarity changes, this can be read here in a NASA statement back in 2001 at the last polar shift. However, this shift is expected to have massive solar storms that could literally threaten the all technology on earth. An excellent video of a solar flare that erupted on July 7th is here. Back in 2006 NASA issued a warning concerning these solar storms, news video here.

Except that solar scientists are finding evidence that the Sun is being unusually quit rather than increasing activity.

And yes, the threat of solar flares is real; however there has yet to be an ejection that actually produced the said threat. Not saying it can't happen, just that it's tiring hearing about threats that have never materialized. We'll have to see on this one.

Neb, during the late 1800's we were hit with a CME that messed with our whole telegraph system. I've read that it actually set some of the equipment on fire, and the voltages were so high that it would severely shock the telegraph operators. If that same thing happened today it would cause a real mess.

http://en.wikipedia....r_storm_of_1859

That was interesting article Joe.

There is a man that uses solar activity to predict weather & earthquakes. He accurately predicted the ones that hit New Zealand & Japan. He predicted the heavy snowfalls of the past winter also. His name is Piers Corbyn & can be found on youtube or at his site WeatherAction. He takes an active anti stance on global warming too.

[nebula]

Neb, during the late 1800's we were hit with a CME that messed with our whole telegraph system. I've read that it actually set some of the equipment on fire, and the voltages were so high that it would severely shock the telegraph operators. If that same thing happened today it would cause a real mess.

OK - you got me!

But that's one out of how many times we've been "warned" of impending solar flare doom?

(I know, that doesn't mean it can't or won't happen again, but still...)