Judas in hell?

[Guest Psalm27]

quote: I don't think we will see Judas in heaven, but may encounter him as the end time "son of perdition."

Judas is coming back? I know that is what the antichrist will be called...but there can be more than one, right?

I kinda believe that Judas is an example of someone who really never gave their heart to Jesus and just followed him for selfish reasons (money, power). Just like a lot of christians today....just because he was with the crowd didn't mean he was really saved.

And because he commited suicide...again shows selfishness. He could've instead repented and gone on to spread the gospel like the others.

[tsth]

I kinda believe that Judas is an example of someone who really never gave their heart to Jesus and just followed him for selfish reasons (money, power).  Just like a lot of christians today....just because he was with the crowd didn't mean he was really saved. 

And because he commited suicide...again shows selfishness.  He could've instead repented and gone on to spread the gospel like the others.

Excellent points.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Born2BFree]

Judas is where anyone is who is LOST. He is LOST. Now Jesus himself said that Judas was the Son of Perdition and he is the ONLY one given to Jesus who was LOST. Since Jesus said Judas was LOST, then it makes sense to say he could not be FOUND since he is LOST.

One might indulge the misplaced kindness by saying they would hope to see Lucifer in heaven, but if he were found in such a place then God would be his father. Its logically inconsistent and nonsense.

Blessings!

[Born2BFree]

Judas is where anyone is who is LOST. He is LOST. Now Jesus himself said that Judas was the Son of Perdition and he is the ONLY one given to Jesus who was LOST. Since Jesus said Judas was LOST, then it makes sense to say he could not be FOUND since he is LOST.

One might indulge the misplaced kindness by saying they would hope to see Lucifer in heaven, but if he were found in such a place then God would be his father. Its logically inconsistent and nonsense. Lucifer was not made for Heaven, though he began there.... Judas was not made for heaven, though he looked to go there. He could not REPENT. This is why is called the son of perdition.

Repentence was not possible for him. Eternal life had no place in him either. His role in the betrayal of Jesus was necessary to the plan of salvation. This is why he was chosen.

Blessings!

[irishcowboy]

Basically, when he knew he was in trouble, he repented "himself".

I believe that we are all guilty of this to some level. I came to Christ because I was in trouble. I repented because I knew He was the only one who could save me. Judas could have been like the people who wanted Jesus dead. They watched Him die and not onces did they feel remorse about it. They never asked for forgiveness. Jesus Himself asked the Father for forgive for them.

God Bless You

Jacqueline

I believe that Jesus was asking God to forgive ALL OF US..... not just those that drove the nails in, or those that caused the whole ordeal, it was ALL OF US....

like the song says.....

WHO NAILED HIM THERE, THIS MAN OF PEACE AND MERCY, WHO NAILED HIM THERE, COME FACE ME LIKE A MAN, WHO NAILED HIM THERE, MY GOD I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, THEN I TURNED AND SAW THE HAMMER......

IN MY HAND.....................

Judas showed signs of remorse, not signs of repentance,there is a big differance..... he was so guilt laiden that he could no longer live with himself, so he took his own life rather then relying on God...... the others were alive and had the salvation presented to them, they fully understood what the purpose of Christ being here...... and that was to lay His life down so that we may be able to live our life for Him...... Judas could have lived and repented and been forgiven....... Judas took his life, not anyone else... Judas did not fully understand who Jesus was......

I do not know if Judas made it or not, that is between God and Judas, with Jesus as the mediator.........

Judas was the treasurer of the group....

Judas was more into the earthly things of this world......

some believe that Judas was trying to do simular to Peter, and try to force Jesus to bring His Kingdom to being..... not knowing the full plan of salvation.....

Peter was ready to go to battle for Jesus, all Jesus would have had to say was LETS GO BOYS....... and Peter would have been off....... not knowing the full plan, Peter tended to open mouth and insert foot, on many occassions.....

did Judas make it to Heaven? personally, from the evidence provided, I would have to say he did not..... but again, I am not the judge, Christ Jesus is.....

what is nice about this trial, is that we are not being tried by a jury of our peers, and we are not being judged by a corrupt judge that has an issue to deal with, we are not up against crooked attornies..... WE HAVE CHRIST JESUS AS OUR COUNSLOR....... and that my friend, is all we need to have.......

what about the other guy????? it dont matter about the other guy, it is all about me and my relationship to Christ...... it is all about you and your relationship to Christ.... just like with that police officer that pulled you over..... you got caught breaking the law, and you are getting the ticket, trying to tell the officer that the guy that was just in front of you was doing this that and other dont matter to the police officer, he caught you.... and that is who he is dealing with..... when we stand infront of the Judge ( Christ Jesus ) He will not be asking what the other guy did, He will be asking YOU WHAT YOU DID.......

it wont matter at that time if Judas made it or not.... .the issue then will be whether or not you made it......... you wont even be concerned about anyone else but your own self......

if you die tonight, will you go to heaven.......

if in doubt, it would be best to seek counsel on it..... and that counsler being Jesus Christ....

mike

[apothanein kerdos]

Any absolute statement about Judas' position in eternity violates Matthew 7:1 people. Be careful not to make an absolute statement on this issue.

[RGR]

Are you sure he's not on a deserted island with Elvis somewhere? :oww: :suspect:

[Kabowd]

Are you sure he's not on a deserted island with Elvis somewhere? :oww: :suspect:

[elvis] Don't be cruel...[/elvis]

[Khristeeanos]

Any absolute statement about Judas' position in eternity violates Matthew 7:1 people. Be careful not to make an absolute statement on this issue.

What about making statement about Satan's position in eternity?

Revelation 20:9- 10

They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Is that a statement we can determine?

Scripture is clear that the devil will be thrown into a lake of fire forever.

[Kabowd]

I think that one is quite obvious, plus..God Himself has already declared satan's fate. Thus, if we state it we are only repeating what God has already told us.