spiritual warfare

[j102]

i do not mean to come across as arrogant, but i was involved in these movements myself and came into bondage due to many of them preaching and teaching things that are unbibical and i had to unlearn alot of what i taught. i wouldn't of changed my pov unless god had told me i need to pray for discernment and test what is being preached first before i accept it as true.

What was unbiblical?

I hardly think that the evil spirits you speak of have their origin in some spiritual error.

the legalism and hyper emotionalism mainly plus the word of faith stuff where they preach that if we say things such as i dont feel good, that you will bring sickness upon yourself just by saying those words. oh my pet peev were those who tried to push or knock you to the ground when they prayed for you and calling it being "slain in the spirit".

can you please explain what you meant when you said you doubt the evil spirits have their origin in some spiritual error.

[holys]

Grace to you,

Have you ever been involved in works of darkness prior to your Salvation? Have any relatives that have been?No now my mother was...She has been deceased for 15 years now..she gave her life to the lord...Now this happened when about 2-3 months after i was anointed by the holy spirit...

Peace,

Dave

Are you saying that your Mother was involved with works of darkness prior to her salvation?

peace,

Dave

yes in another state...she gave it up and went to god..amen for that

[holys]

alot of people have came into bondage due to an experience based Christianity instead of reading and memorizing scripture- the bible says we walk by faith and not by sight so we should go on what god says not what we have experienced, also when someone come to christ and becomes born again, they are delivered from satans kingdom and into god's kingdom, so it don't matter even if your whole family is involved in witchcraft or anything of that nature, you are still protected by the blood of christ.

It is important that we experience Christ.

Many Christians come to Christ with bondages and strongholds, and it takes some time--sanctification process---before a person is confronted by these things. Yes, we have God's protection on us, and all His promises available to us, but we need to take hold of the authority that Jesus Christ has given us and renounce certain rights we may have given to certain powers or principalities.

God is patient while we come to that point. I have witnessed people who have known and walked with Jesus for up to ten years come to their knees due to a stronghold that has suddenly revealed itself due to the advance of the Holy Spirit into their lives as they grow in Christ.

Amen sis.

maybe i should clearify my self- when i said exeperience based christianty, i didn't mean that we dont have a day to day active relationship with god- i meant the type that focuses mainly on feelings and emotions and the people that think god is ALWAYS talking to THEM. I meant those that believe almost everything that happens has some sort of spiritual meaning, like trying to read between the lines and just becaused they witnessed somthing spiritual they assume its god's spirit at work and they dont even test it like god tells us to do- if your familar with movements like word of faith and charismatic groups you know what i mean

Amen...we are to test the spirits to see if they are from god..amen

[holys]

i do not mean to come across as arrogant, but i was involved in these movements myself and came into bondage due to many of them preaching and teaching things that are unbibical and i had to unlearn alot of what i taught. i wouldn't of changed my pov unless god had told me i need to pray for discernment and test what is being preached first before i accept it as true.

What was unbiblical?

I hardly think that the evil spirits you speak of have their origin in some spiritual error.

the legalism and hyper emotionalism mainly plus the word of faith stuff where they preach that if we say things such as i dont feel good, that you will bring sickness upon yourself just by saying those words. oh my pet peev were those who tried to push or knock you to the ground when they prayed for you and calling it being "slain in the spirit".

can you please explain what you meant when you said you doubt the evil spirits have their origin in some spiritual error.

i second that question as well

[Floatingaxe]

i do not mean to come across as arrogant, but i was involved in these movements myself and came into bondage due to many of them preaching and teaching things that are unbibical and i had to unlearn alot of what i taught. i wouldn't of changed my pov unless god had told me i need to pray for discernment and test what is being preached first before i accept it as true.

What was unbiblical?

I hardly think that the evil spirits you speak of have their origin in some spiritual error.

the legalism and hyper emotionalism mainly plus the word of faith stuff where they preach that if we say things such as i dont feel good, that you will bring sickness upon yourself just by saying those words. oh my pet peev were those who tried to push or knock you to the ground when they prayed for you and calling it being "slain in the spirit".

can you please explain what you meant when you said you doubt the evil spirits have their origin in some spiritual error.

Some people are overcome by the power of Holy Spirit. We need to have His discernment to know whether or not someone is intending to create a manifestation. If you have that discernment, then you weren't in bondage, were you?

Many of us must learn to guard our minds and control our speech, for some of us will utter a curse over ourselves without knowing it.

As for your question, most everyone has some error, and many churches preach error of some kind. While the enemy is successful in diverting the truth from people, it doesn't mean that there is an evil spirit around every corner. God gives us the ability by His indwelling spirit to tap into what He says about what anyone teaches, and we have the authority of the word of God to show us without a doubt that someone is in error. We are safe in Him, as long as we are walking with Him, and getting into His word regularly, and seeking Him first above all things.

[enoob57]

Some people are overcome by the power of Holy Spirit. We need to have His discernment to know whether or not someone is intending to create a manifestation. If you have that discernment, then you weren't in bondage, were you?

Many of us must learn to guard our minds and control our speech, for some of us will utter a curse over ourselves without knowing it.

As for your question, most everyone has some error, and many churches preach error of some kind. While the enemy is successful in diverting the truth from people, it doesn't mean that there is an evil spirit around every corner. God gives us the ability by His indwelling spirit to tap into what He says about what anyone teaches, and we have the authority of the word of God to show us without a doubt that someone is in error. We are safe in Him, as long as we are walking with Him, and getting into His word regularly, and seeking Him first above all things.

1 Co 14:31-33

31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

NKJV

What you are saying does not reason with this statement of Paul! Love, Steven

[Floatingaxe]

Some people are overcome by the power of Holy Spirit. We need to have His discernment to know whether or not someone is intending to create a manifestation. If you have that discernment, then you weren't in bondage, were you?

Many of us must learn to guard our minds and control our speech, for some of us will utter a curse over ourselves without knowing it.

As for your question, most everyone has some error, and many churches preach error of some kind. While the enemy is successful in diverting the truth from people, it doesn't mean that there is an evil spirit around every corner. God gives us the ability by His indwelling spirit to tap into what He says about what anyone teaches, and we have the authority of the word of God to show us without a doubt that someone is in error. We are safe in Him, as long as we are walking with Him, and getting into His word regularly, and seeking Him first above all things.

1 Co 14:31-33

31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

NKJV

What you are saying does not reason with this statement of Paul! Love, Steven

You are having a contextual problem here, and are venturing off topic by reason of human reasoning. The subject in this passage is the spirits of the prophets themselves. We do have control over what we speak, even when we are speaking in the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 14:31-33

31 In this way, all who prophesy will have a turn to speak, one after the other, so that everyone will learn and be encouraged. 32 Remember that people who prophesy are in control of their spirit and can take turns. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace, as in all the meetings of God’s holy people.

The subject in question is the activity of the Holy Spirit where His presence is heavy upon an individual. He cannot help but manifest, praise God!

[enoob57]

Some people are overcome by the power of Holy Spirit. We need to have His discernment to know whether or not someone is intending to create a manifestation. If you have that discernment, then you weren't in bondage, were you?

Many of us must learn to guard our minds and control our speech, for some of us will utter a curse over ourselves without knowing it.

As for your question, most everyone has some error, and many churches preach error of some kind. While the enemy is successful in diverting the truth from people, it doesn't mean that there is an evil spirit around every corner. God gives us the ability by His indwelling spirit to tap into what He says about what anyone teaches, and we have the authority of the word of God to show us without a doubt that someone is in error. We are safe in Him, as long as we are walking with Him, and getting into His word regularly, and seeking Him first above all things.

1 Co 14:31-33

31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

NKJV

What you are saying does not reason with this statement of Paul! Love, Steven

You are having a contextual problem here, and are venturing off topic by reason of human reasoning. The subject in this passage is the spirits of the prophets themselves. We do have control over what we speak, even when we are speaking in the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 14:31-33

31 In this way, all who prophesy will have a turn to speak, one after the other, so that everyone will learn and be encouraged. 32 Remember that people who prophesy are in control of their spirit and can take turns. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace, as in all the meetings of God’s holy people.

The subject in question is the activity of the Holy Spirit where His presence is heavy upon an individual. He cannot help but manifest, praise God!

Then I do not understand you use of the words 'overcome by' ... because what your saying down here is not the proper use of such words you used above! Manifesting and overcoming are not equalities... Oh also human reasoning is promoted by God in Isa 1:18

Love, Steven

[nebula]

Is this maybe a trile form god am i suffering for Jesus???evil talks all the time with there lies and its driving me crazy..The evil spirits have at the time stopped me from praying,all i get out is a couple of prayers...

From what I understand, the only way a demon can hang on to you like this if there is some unrepented sin in your life, which gives the demon an access door.

Example from my own life. When I was out west, the group I was with were visiting the ruins of an ancient native city. While there on top of the cliff, I was overcome by a demonic spirit of the ancient religion. Without going into the details of the experience, it was discerned later by someone that if I gave into what the demon was influencing me to to I would have been blown off the cliff. It was a spirit of suicide (must have had human sacrifices back then). The desire for suicide had been a stronghold in my life for years. So that's what gave it the door into my life.

So, my council is to seek the Lord on what open door is in your life to this evil spirit. Is it something from your mother's involvement in things? Or is there something in your own life? Note, this isn't condemnation, for we all have sin-struggles in our lives (short temper, things we let in through our eyes and ears in the name of entertainment, bitterness, vanity, pride, etc.) Also, are there any religious items in your home or anything left from your mother's previous activities?

Prayers for discernment.

[Matthitjah]

Is this maybe a trile form god am i suffering for Jesus???evil talks all the time with there lies and its driving me crazy..The evil spirits have at the time stopped me from praying,all i get out is a couple of prayers...

From what I understand, the only way a demon can hang on to you like this if there is some unrepented sin in your life, which gives the demon an access door.

Example from my own life. When I was out west, the group I was with were visiting the ruins of an ancient native city. While there on top of the cliff, I was overcome by a demonic spirit of the ancient religion. Without going into the details of the experience, it was discerned later by someone that if I gave into what the demon was influencing me to to I would have been blown off the cliff. It was a spirit of suicide (must have had human sacrifices back then). The desire for suicide had been a stronghold in my life for years. So that's what gave it the door into my life.

So, my council is to seek the Lord on what open door is in your life to this evil spirit. Is it something from your mother's involvement in things? Or is there something in your own life? Note, this isn't condemnation, for we all have sin-struggles in our lives (short temper, things we let in through our eyes and ears in the name of entertainment, bitterness, vanity, pride, etc.) Also, are there any religious items in your home or anything left from your mother's previous activities?

Prayers for discernment.

Amen sis.