Few Perspectives on The Apostle Paul

[Matthitjah]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

I must confess I am struggling a new perspective on the phrase "born again." Struggling as I do with most things the Holy Spirit teaches me about scripture... why I resist, I don't know... But anyway, the phrase born again (if this inspiration passes muster with holy writ) refers to the Jews only who are the natural branches of the Oliver Tree (Romans 11:16-28). Gentiles in this regard (the covenants of God etc.) were never born in the first place (with regard to the cultivated Olive Tree) but were wild olive branches to be grafted into the cultivated tree. The only other mention of "born again" that I can find is in 1 Peter 1:23 which makes the application to the scattered... which I take means the scattered Jewish Christians (otherwise from where are they scattered) and there is biblical and historic evidence that the initial Church was scattered from Jerusalem and Judea (the initial Church consisting almost entirely of Jews).

The application still works for Gentiles in the overall interpretation, but the specific targets appears to be the Jews.

As I said, this is one I am struggling with, and I would appreciate nay insights etc. on this... which seems to be in keeping with the OP.

Complete and utter nonsense.

[Matthitjah]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

I must confess I am struggling a new perspective on the phrase "born again." Struggling as I do with most things the Holy Spirit teaches me about scripture... why I resist, I don't know... But anyway, the phrase born again (if this inspiration passes muster with holy writ) refers to the Jews only who are the natural branches of the Oliver Tree (Romans 11:16-28). Gentiles in this regard (the covenants of God etc.) were never born in the first place (with regard to the cultivated Olive Tree) but were wild olive branches to be grafted into the cultivated tree. The only other mention of "born again" that I can find is in 1 Peter 1:23 which makes the application to the scattered... which I take means the scattered Jewish Christians (otherwise from where are they scattered) and there is biblical and historic evidence that the initial Church was scattered from Jerusalem and Judea (the initial Church consisting almost entirely of Jews).

The application still works for Gentiles in the overall interpretation, but the specific targets appears to be the Jews.

As I said, this is one I am struggling with, and I would appreciate nay insights etc. on this... which seems to be in keeping with the OP.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Here's the scripture in context;

Joh 3:2

The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that you do, except God be with him.

Joh 3:3

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:4

Nicodemus said unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Joh 3:5

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Nicodemus is trying to ascertain if what he and others are beginning to believe about the Messiah is true or not.

The Lord is explaining that he is misunderstanding because he does not have the right nature. Jewish or not. A Jewish man is not different than any other man born of the flesh. He may have specific promises but these promises are obtained by Faith and even then he is no different than any other man in that regard.

De 7:7

The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people; for you were the fewest of all people:

De 7:8

But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, has the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

De 7:9

Know therefore that the LORD your God, he is God, the faithful God, who keeps covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

God chose them because He is faithful and keeps His covenant and Word.

[Michae]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

Paul only spoke and taught and wrote what Jesus gave him. He didn't suffer any more than Jesus did, and what he did suffer, he did so unto Christ, His Saviour and Lord. So should we---that is, if we ever would hope to have even a portion of the heavy revelation that was given to him.

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

As a group can we get into some of these things and discuss them, what I believe and what you believe really doesnt matter to the Lord, He has the truth, its in us can we focus on that maybe and leave the dividing over words behind. All have a right to their opinion but we cant get into the depth of Christ in us when we spend our time trying to ease everyone's mind. Nothing to fear we are all christians. I believe just as you, death, burial, resurrection and ascention

I believe on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh. Jesus was born of a virgin, and who ever believes that Jesus is the Son of God and realizes they need a savior shall be saves. Hope that helps those in here that was asking what I believe as far as doctrine goes.

I am not trying to just come in and disrupt a forum, I am simply stating my understanding but man just a few words that are different from the norm really has caused an uproar, that is not my intention. I am not trying to be smarter I am trying to be a blessing to all of the body of Christ.

[OneLight]

I don't see an uproar. I see brothers and sisters trying to understand where you are coming from.

[Matthitjah]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

Paul only spoke and taught and wrote what Jesus gave him. He didn't suffer any more than Jesus did, and what he did suffer, he did so unto Christ, His Saviour and Lord. So should we---that is, if we ever would hope to have even a portion of the heavy revelation that was given to him.

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

As a group can we get into some of these things and discuss them, what I believe and what you believe really doesnt matter to the Lord, He has the truth, its in us can we focus on that maybe and leave the dividing over words behind. All have a right to their opinion but we cant get into the depth of Christ in us when we spend our time trying to ease everyone's mind. Nothing to fear we are all christians. I believe just as you, death, burial, resurrection and ascention

I believe on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh. Jesus was born of a virgin, and who ever believes that Jesus is the Son of God and realizes they need a savior shall be saves. Hope that helps those in here that was asking what I believe as far as doctrine goes.

I am not trying to just come in and disrupt a forum, I am simply stating my understanding but man just a few words that are different from the norm really has caused an uproar, that is not my intention. I am not trying to be smarter I am trying to be a blessing to all of the body of Christ.

Nothing to fear we are all christians.

We haven't ascertained that as of yet.

The Bible tells us to try the spirits to se whether they are of God or not.

The Test is this;

Has Jesus Christ come in the flesh? Is He fully God and fully man?

We're not mincing words either and it's not merely a misunderstanding about Denominational Doctrine. We are speaking of the core essence of Christian Doctrine. We are speaking of what we all confess to be the Truth and at the core of that is that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. He is not the "christ spirit," but God Himself manifest in the flesh.

Interestingly enough Johns Gospel was on par for todays Preaching at my home Church.

John's Gospel say's this;

Joh 1:1

¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:11

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Joh 1:12

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, even to them that believe on his name:

How? They were Born Again in the Life of Christ. he gave them the power to become children of God. They were not merely indwelt by some "christ spirit," that is foreign to the Word, but indwelt by the Living God.

Followed by this;

Joh 1:13

Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Do you believe this?

peace,

Dave

[goldust59]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

Paul only spoke and taught and wrote what Jesus gave him. He didn't suffer any more than Jesus did, and what he did suffer, he did so unto Christ, His Saviour and Lord. So should we---that is, if we ever would hope to have even a portion of the heavy revelation that was given to him.

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

As a group can we get into some of these things and discuss them, what I believe and what you believe really doesnt matter to the Lord, He has the truth, its in us can we focus on that maybe and leave the dividing over words behind. All have a right to their opinion but we cant get into the depth of Christ in us when we spend our time trying to ease everyone's mind. Nothing to fear we are all christians. I believe just as you, death, burial, resurrection and ascention

I believe on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh. Jesus was born of a virgin, and who ever believes that Jesus is the Son of God and realizes they need a savior shall be saves. Hope that helps those in here that was asking what I believe as far as doctrine goes.

I am not trying to just come in and disrupt a forum, I am simply stating my understanding but man just a few words that are different from the norm really has caused an uproar, that is not my intention. I am not trying to be smarter I am trying to be a blessing to all of the body of Christ.

Michae, I don't believe you are trying to cause an uproar, but this is a hard topic & has not been taught on much & there is much misunderstanding about it. I only have a basic understanding & I was introduced to the "in Christ" revelation Paul was given years ago.

People are going to have to ask the Father for understanding because I don't feel qualified to teach on it. But here are some scriptures to prayerfully consider:

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many: but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.~ Galatians 3:16

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ~ Galatians 3:27

And if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:29

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ, and He (Lord & His Christ as one) shall reign for ever & ever. ~ Revelation 11: 15b (emphasis mine)

It all has to do with us being one with Him, just like a man & wife are one, as seen in Ephesians 5: 22-32

[Michae]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

Paul only spoke and taught and wrote what Jesus gave him. He didn't suffer any more than Jesus did, and what he did suffer, he did so unto Christ, His Saviour and Lord. So should we---that is, if we ever would hope to have even a portion of the heavy revelation that was given to him.

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

As a group can we get into some of these things and discuss them, what I believe and what you believe really doesnt matter to the Lord, He has the truth, its in us can we focus on that maybe and leave the dividing over words behind. All have a right to their opinion but we cant get into the depth of Christ in us when we spend our time trying to ease everyone's mind. Nothing to fear we are all christians. I believe just as you, death, burial, resurrection and ascention

I believe on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh. Jesus was born of a virgin, and who ever believes that Jesus is the Son of God and realizes they need a savior shall be saves. Hope that helps those in here that was asking what I believe as far as doctrine goes.

I am not trying to just come in and disrupt a forum, I am simply stating my understanding but man just a few words that are different from the norm really has caused an uproar, that is not my intention. I am not trying to be smarter I am trying to be a blessing to all of the body of Christ.

Michae, I don't believe you are trying to cause an uproar, but this is a hard topic & has not been taught on much & there is much misunderstanding about it. I only have a basic understanding & I was introduced to the "in Christ" revelation Paul was given years ago.

People are going to have to ask the Father for understanding because I don't feel qualified to teach on it. But here are some scriptures to prayerfully consider:

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many: but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.~ Galatians 3:16

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ~ Galatians 3:27

And if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:29

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ, and He (Lord & His Christ as one) shall reign for ever & ever. ~ Revelation 11: 15b (emphasis mine)

It all has to do with us being one with Him, just like a man & wife are one, as seen in Ephesians 5: 22-32

Thank you and yes i undetstand there has not been alot of teaching on it but as believers we really should give some attention to it. If the OP is looked at from an overall perspective i dont think there is that much in it that cant be explained by what most of us know already. Words mean alot but just because of wording a student should be able to pick through and see what is being said.

I do understand all of the arguments that have been made by everyone but surly there are things in the OP that has some meat, that is dishearting to have a few words cause others so much trouble. I really dont believe the majority that have posted are as stumped as they have let own because we all have the same teacher, the Holy Spirit, he is not showing me one thing and them something else. A statement like that will draw again the same response, haha, oh well here we go again. There are so many things to share and that is my hope we can all at keast come to some common ground, "like Christ is the life if every believer" and move into a greater knowledge of who we are, that is pleasing to our Fathet.

[Michae]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

Paul only spoke and taught and wrote what Jesus gave him. He didn't suffer any more than Jesus did, and what he did suffer, he did so unto Christ, His Saviour and Lord. So should we---that is, if we ever would hope to have even a portion of the heavy revelation that was given to him.

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

As a group can we get into some of these things and discuss them, what I believe and what you believe really doesnt matter to the Lord, He has the truth, its in us can we focus on that maybe and leave the dividing over words behind. All have a right to their opinion but we cant get into the depth of Christ in us when we spend our time trying to ease everyone's mind. Nothing to fear we are all christians. I believe just as you, death, burial, resurrection and ascention

I believe on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh. Jesus was born of a virgin, and who ever believes that Jesus is the Son of God and realizes they need a savior shall be saves. Hope that helps those in here that was asking what I believe as far as doctrine goes.

I am not trying to just come in and disrupt a forum, I am simply stating my understanding but man just a few words that are different from the norm really has caused an uproar, that is not my intention. I am not trying to be smarter I am trying to be a blessing to all of the body of Christ.

Nothing to fear we are all christians.

We haven't ascertained that as of yet.

The Bible tells us to try the spirits to se whether they are of God or not.

The Test is this;

Has Jesus Christ come in the flesh? Is He fully God and fully man?

We're not mincing words either and it's not merely a misunderstanding about Denominational Doctrine. We are speaking of the core essence of Christian Doctrine. We are speaking of what we all confess to be the Truth and at the core of that is that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. He is not the "christ spirit," but God Himself manifest in the flesh.

Interestingly enough Johns Gospel was on par for todays Preaching at my home Church.

John's Gospel say's this;

Joh 1:1

¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:11

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Joh 1:12

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, even to them that believe on his name:

How? They were Born Again in the Life of Christ. he gave them the power to become children of God. They were not merely indwelt by some "christ spirit," that is foreign to the Word, but indwelt by the Living God.

Followed by this;

Joh 1:13

Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Do you believe this?

peace,

Dave

Y

Yes i do believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, 100% man and 100% god. You will have to forgive me but all I have done in the threads I have started and other posts i have made is preach Christ in His fulness and you tell me you could not discern that. I am going to keep my mouth shut on that one but that is very awkward. Have you been in the word for a while if you dont mind me asking.

I can tell you i would not like to be one of the Lord's prophet's and be sent in here, kidding but i feel like you were asking in honesty but it does seem kind of strange, i know what i have posted and by nomeans did any of it warrent that type of reaction

Edited January 1, 2012 by Michae

[Matthitjah]

He gives us the "in Christ" message.

He never use's the phase "born again", he referr's to Christ in us as a mystery. Anywhere you see the phase "mystery" it will translate to Christ in us.

He tells us the knowledge that God would birth His own children was hidden in God until Paul's revelation, Romans 16:25. It is never mentioned in the OT, not until Jesus mentions it to Nicodemus but there was no understanding until Paul.

He was called to suffer, Acts 9:16, as you read the list Paul gives in, Cor, you see how he suffered in body as well as mind. Possibly his greatest of sufferings were that of being rejected by his own brethern.

Paul only spoke and taught and wrote what Jesus gave him. He didn't suffer any more than Jesus did, and what he did suffer, he did so unto Christ, His Saviour and Lord. So should we---that is, if we ever would hope to have even a portion of the heavy revelation that was given to him.

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

As a group can we get into some of these things and discuss them, what I believe and what you believe really doesnt matter to the Lord, He has the truth, its in us can we focus on that maybe and leave the dividing over words behind. All have a right to their opinion but we cant get into the depth of Christ in us when we spend our time trying to ease everyone's mind. Nothing to fear we are all christians. I believe just as you, death, burial, resurrection and ascention

I believe on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh. Jesus was born of a virgin, and who ever believes that Jesus is the Son of God and realizes they need a savior shall be saves. Hope that helps those in here that was asking what I believe as far as doctrine goes.

I am not trying to just come in and disrupt a forum, I am simply stating my understanding but man just a few words that are different from the norm really has caused an uproar, that is not my intention. I am not trying to be smarter I am trying to be a blessing to all of the body of Christ.

Nothing to fear we are all christians.

We haven't ascertained that as of yet.

The Bible tells us to try the spirits to se whether they are of God or not.

The Test is this;

Has Jesus Christ come in the flesh? Is He fully God and fully man?

We're not mincing words either and it's not merely a misunderstanding about Denominational Doctrine. We are speaking of the core essence of Christian Doctrine. We are speaking of what we all confess to be the Truth and at the core of that is that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. He is not the "christ spirit," but God Himself manifest in the flesh.

Interestingly enough Johns Gospel was on par for todays Preaching at my home Church.

John's Gospel say's this;

Joh 1:1

¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:11

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Joh 1:12

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, even to them that believe on his name:

How? They were Born Again in the Life of Christ. he gave them the power to become children of God. They were not merely indwelt by some "christ spirit," that is foreign to the Word, but indwelt by the Living God.

Followed by this;

Joh 1:13

Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Do you believe this?

peace,

Dave

Y

Yes i do believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, 100% man and 100% god. You will have to forgive me but all I have done in the threads I have started and other posts i have made is preach Christ in His fulness and you tell me you could not discern that. I am going to keep my mouth shut on that one but that is very awkward. Have you been in the word for a while if you dont mind me asking.

I can tell you i would not like to be one of the Lord's prophet's and be sent in here, kidding but i feel like you were asking in honesty but it does seem kind of strange, i know what i have posted and by nomeans did any of it warrent that type of reaction

Thank you, I have been in the Word for quite some time. Really that's not the point though. What is, is your obvious preference for elevating Paul.

Paul has stated the point that he was merely a master builder quite clearly;

1Co 3:10

According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise master builder, I have laid the foundation, and another builds thereon. But let every man take heed how he builds thereupon.

The foundation he laid in Corinth was Christ crucified;

1Co 1:13

Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

Paul denies being the foundation.

He lay's hold of the Truth;

1Co 2:2

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

He lay's no claim to any other Gospel.

1Co 3:21

¶ Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

1Co 3:22

Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;

1Co 3:23

And you are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

Hallelujah!

Paul himself does not lay the claim that it appears that you are claiming.

Yes, Christ indwells us, the Hope of Glory in us is Christ Jesus. The Ressurected life!

However, this was no new thought or mystery revealed which hadn't already been revealed in Christ and spoken of by the Prophets. Yea! Even expected by the Patriarches.

The problem for you dear one is that you have raised yourself to the Mantle of Teacher. If you're going to do this there is going to be alot more expected of you even by the Lord Himself because now you will be held to account.

Now as to the whole issue of age, spiritual or otherwise;

1Ti 4:12

Let no man despise your youth; but be an example of the believers, in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

It has nothing so much to do with age as it does the Spirit of Truth. Rather, to even mention it, leads one to denote a spirit of arrogance and an air of superiority.

Peace,

dave

[Floatingaxe]

The revelation Paul had was of Christ and he went on to say that was the gospel, Gal 1:11-12. Pauls gospel was not of some kind of an end time event or any other thing, it was Christ, the indwelling Christ. Paul had other revelations concerning the body of Christ and said he would come to revelations but the gospel that was revealed to him was Christ.

Right.

Paul's revelation was not of eschatological matters. He was an apostle of Jesus Christ, commissioned to evangelize and plant churches.

Paul had no personal gospel but the gospel of Jesus Christ.