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"If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God.  If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever, Amen"  (I Pet. 4:11).

Our Heavenly Father chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4). The Father sent the Holy Spirit to reveal His Son to us, and then draw us to Christ for salvation (John 6:44).  The Spirit birthing is an essential and important transaction.  Without the Spirit birthing, we cannot be placed into the Body of Christ, and Christ cannot come into us to live His eternal life in us.  Paul indeed proclaims that we are not saved by Jesus' death on the cross, for that is what reconciled us to the Father to make a relationship with Him possible (Rom. 5:10).  We are actually saved by the eternal life of the resurrected Lord of life actually coming to live in us at the Spirit birthing (Rom. 5:10).  When we were born again by the incorruptible Seed, through the Word of God, we received all of Christ and were completed in the Spirit (I Pet. 1:23; Col. 2:10).  We received the omnipresent Person of Christ, that is why Paul says, "it is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me" (Gal. 2:20).  Paul isn't talking about the Holy Spirit here, or even the Spirit of Christ, but the omnipresent resurrected Lord of glory coming to live in me with a shared-life or the Christ-life.  

At the Spirit birthing, we also received the Spirit of Christ to be the essence of the expression of Christ in me and through me (Rom. 8:9).  The Spirit of Christ  is distinct, but in union with the Holy Spirit.  When I received Christ at the Spirit birthing, I actually received the Holy Spirit and all the fullness of the Godhead bodily (Col. 2:9).  The Holy Spirit's primary function in me is to fill and renew the mind to the eternal truth of Christ and Him crucified.  The Son's primary function in me is to be my eternal life and expression in this temporal walk (I John 5:11-12; Gal. 2:20).  Religious teaching has commingled and confused the functions of the trinity, contrary to the distinct teaching of the Word of God. When God operates in flesh it is has been through His Son, the Word.  His Son became flesh and was expressed as Jesus of Nazareth (John 1:14). His Son now functions and is expressed through every member of the many-membered Body of Christ (I Cor. 12:27).

Christ now lives in us with the fullness of His Person, Spirit, life and nature.  As the Holy Spirit renews and fills the mind with the truth of Jesus Christ and Him crucified, we will really know the true Christ who now lives the Christ-life in us.  Just as the Father spoke and did His works in and through Jesus of Nazareth, so will Christ speak and minister in and through our flesh with all of His ability within us.  The more we know and yield to Christ in us, the more Christ will minister through us with all His ability, and Christ in us will speak as the oracles of God through us! V


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You ended by saying "The more we know and yield to Christ in us, the more Christ will minister through us with all His ability, and Christ in us will speak as the oracles of God through us!" The underlined is the most critical element for us to accept and understand.

There are so many that have mostly head knowledge of scripture, knowing how to apply a certain verse to a specific question or situation, yet knows not how to yield to Christ in their personal lives. I have used the below example many times.

If a person yields 10% of themselves to Christ, all He can do is work 10% of His will in you, and may find you not a vessel for His service yet. If a person yields 50%, than Christ can only work 50% of His will in and through you. Our goal is to surrender completely to Him so we will be found a vessel fit for the service of the King! It is a daily progress as we mature in Him.

2 Timothy 2:15

Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


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You ended by saying "The more we know and yield to Christ in us, the more Christ will minister through us with all His ability, and Christ in us will speak as the oracles of God through us!" The underlined is the most critical element for us to accept and understand.

There are so many that have mostly head knowledge of scripture, knowing how to apply a certain verse to a specific question or situation, yet knows not how to yield to Christ in their personal lives. I have used the below example many times.

If a person yields 10% of themselves to Christ, all He can do is work 10% of His will in you, and may find you not a vessel for His service yet. If a person yields 50%, than Christ can only work 50% of His will in and through you. Our goal is to surrender completely to Him so we will be found a vessel fit for the service of the King! It is a daily progress as we mature in Him.

2 Timothy 2:15

Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Oh yes! :thumbsup:

Its not the amount of scriptures you know, how to 'rightly' interpret them that matters, its the intent of the heart/will. If we understood that our hearts desires should be His hearts desire then we see His will is our will. I love your post! His Word, the scriptures are meant to be lived out as examples, as His light, proclaiming Him to the nations and preparing for the kingdom to come.

shalom,

Mizz


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"But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you"  (I Pet. 5:10).

Our Heavenly Father is a father of all grace.  Our Father is the one who spoke in existence the eternal plan for us to be in Christ before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4). Our Father wanted to have sons, with which  to have a genuine love relationship and fellowship.  His created angels could never fully have a Father/child relationship with him.  They do what they do out of a Master/servant relationship.  Two-thirds of the angelic host have remained faithful.  One-third of the angelic host led by Lucifer, the Archangel covering the Lord Jesus rebelled and were cast out of heaven (Rev. 12:7-9).  Our Father foreknew this would happen before He chose us to be in Christ before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4-5; Rom. 8:29-30).  Our Father chose us to be in Christ and Christ to be in us as the current Body of Christ, so that He would never have to cast us out of heaven by any disobedience that we might do.  The Father "qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light" (Col. 1:12).  Through the Spirit rebirthing when we simply believed in Him and His Word, our Father "delivered us from the kingdom of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of His love" (Col. 1:13).  Our Father of all grace has secured an eternal Father/child relationship with us, and called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus (Eph. 1:12-14; I Pet. 5:10).

To fully learn the family Spirit in this temporal walk, we will go through some pain and suffering.  Paul said, "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us" (Rom. 8:18).  The arena of suffering often can be the open door the Holy Spirit's greatest revelation in us.  Why cannot the natural eye see, nor the natural eye hear, nor enter into the heart of man the things of God.  Naturally, man looks at the good, the rich, the powerful and the mighty things for being God.  However, God works His eternal plan differently.  He uses opposites.  Our Father brings His life out of our death, His joy out of our suffering, His peace out of our unrest, His strength out of our weakness.  Paul said, "God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, that no flesh should glory in His presence" (I Cor. 1:27-29).  Through humility we can be brought to Christ and see that Christ is our everything – wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption (I Cor. 1:30).

Through suffering we learn the family Spirit.  Through suffering we learn obedience to God and the things of God just as Jesus did (Hebr. 5:8).  We can ask the question, "Father what do you want me to really know in the midst of this trial and suffering?"  Paul knew there was an important fellowship with the Father and Christ in the midst of His sufferings in us (Phil. 3:10).  Through sufferings a little while, our Heavenly Father will work it all together for good to those that love Him (Rom. 8:28).  Through these all these things the Father will have the Holy Spirit transform the mind so that we will matured, established, strenghened, and settled, by His revelation of Christ in us as us! V


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"For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men – as free, yet not using your liberty as a cloak for vice, but as servants of God. Honor all people.  Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king"  (I Pet. 2:15-17).

Through the Spirit rebirthing, our Heavenly Father has basically prepared us for everything we will need in our walk in this temporal life.  The most significant thing that our Father has done for us, besides His marvelous grace and redemption through Christ on the cross, was to place His only begotten Son in us at the Spirit rebirthing.  His Son in us is to be our everything for this earthly walk.  Christ is to be our wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption (I Cor. 1:30).  Christ is to be our life and expression (I John 5:11-12; Gal. 2:20). This is why we are called the Body of Christ (I Cor. 12:27).  We don't lack for grace and truth, for we have the Person of grace and truth – the Lord Jesus Christ, since the Spirit rebirthing living in us as us with His eternal life (John 1:17; Rom. 6:23).  There should be no doubt that we are fully complete in the Spirit realm in Christ, who is the head of all principality and power (Col. 2:10).  Anything that seems to lack in you comes from our mind not yet fully transformed to these truths by the Holy Spirit, or our lack of obedience in our walk to those revealed truths to us (Rom. 12:2; Gal. 3:1).  Our Heavenly Father put Christ in us  – the center and mystery of His will,  for us to live a shared-life in Him – the Christ-life.

The Christ-life message is the heart and soul of the apostle Paul.  Christ specifically called Paul, revealed Christ in Him, and sent him to declare this to the church, as the Father's divine plan and correction needed to and for the church (Gal. 1:11-16; I Cor. 2:1-10).  Most of the problems that the church faces today, is rooted to a lack of the teaching this liberating secret of the Christ-life.  Religion does not teach it, for they must control the people through mixtures of law and grace.  This message of 100% grace does not fit. Others do not teach it, because it has not been yet fully revealed to them, or they view it as only a peripheral message and not the Father's central focus message of truth.  The church surely needs revival – that we will truly come back to the in Christ message of the apostle Paul of Christ living in you as you – hence, the Christ-life.  Spontaneously and continuously living the Christ-life will genuinely produce His good and put to silence the ignorance of foolish men (I Pet. 2:15).  Spontaneously living the Christ-life is our Father's freedom to us and liberty for us (Gal. 5:1).

Our Father's divine purpose is to gather in one all things in Christ (Eph. 1:10).  We are  clay pots or vessels, to carry the treasure of Christ in us (II Cor. 4:7).  Paul declares that the Christ-life should always be manifested in us and expressed through us (II Cor. 4:10).  Christ is in us, and we are still in this earthly walk, in order that the Christ-life will be expressed through us with His Spirit of agape love-for-others (I John 4:16-17). As we spontaneously live the Christ-life, we will walk in the will of God to serve God and others in honor, agape love, in the fear of the Lord! V


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"If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forevereing and ever, Amen" (I Pet. 4:11)

If anybody speaks in the church then they are to do so according to the laws of God (oracles both the NT & OT) and not according to anything else. If anyone in the church wants to become a minister then they should do so according to their ability God gave through the measure of faith. Every person doesn't have the same ability to minister but we are all to minister and speak according to the Word of God and according to the measure of grace being the amount of ability God gives us.

When this is done the Word of God is glorified as the things written therein will have dominion and glory forever and ever. We have and posess a sure word of prophecy that will come to pass. When we speak and minister from the Word it's then God will supply to us the ability to speak his oracles. There shall not be one jot nor title from the Word of God that shall ever pass away.

Romans 12:7----Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; (preachers and teachers should prepare themselves having the knowledge of God. They need to spend time in study so that they will be able to speak forth the oracles of God so the saints will be equipped for ministry before going out to minister to the body of Christ). Ephesians 4:11-12


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2 Timothy 2:15

Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

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"But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him"  (I John 2:27).

We have the Holy Spirit in us, sent by the Father to be our primary teacher.  Jesus  told His disciples, that it was necessary that He go away, so that the Helper or the Holy Spirit would come to teach us (John 16:7).  Jesus stated that, "the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance that I said to you" (John 14:26).  Jesus also said, "But when the Helper comes whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth whom proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me" (John 15:26).  Again Jesus declares, "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.  He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.  All things that the Father has are Mine, Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you" (John 16:13-15).  Jesus taught that the Holy Spirit was selfless. The Holy Spirit does not come to focus on Himself.  The Holy Spirit does not come to teach of Himself.  The Holy Spirit does not want any attention to be drawn to Himself.  The Holy Spirit presents the things of Jesus and testifies of Jesus.  The Holy Spirit transforms and renews the mind to the things of Christ in us.

So who or what is the anointing in I John 2:27?  The best interpretation is best seen when we stay in context with the chapter and often the whole Book.  The theme of this Book is having a relationship and fellowship with the Father and the Son (I John 1:3), and fellowship is emphasized throughout the remainder of chapter 1.  Then we move into abiding in Christ, abiding in love, and loving our brothers for chapters 2,  and 4. Chapter 5 comes full circle and talks about our Spirit rebirthing relationship in the Lord Jesus Christ.  John tells us that we "have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things" (I John 2:20).  Peter in his second sermon discusses the crucifixion of the Holy One, and is surely referring to our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 3:14).  We are told to abide in the Son and in the Father (I John 2:24).  Jesus told his disciples to abide in Him (John 15:7).  All of these focus us to the truth that we are abiding in Christ and the doctrine of Christ in us (II John 9).

After Christ in us as taught by the Holy Spirit, and we abide in Christ,  the Son will begin a higher teaching and revelation of the Father to us (Matt. 11:27).  This anointing is from Christ's nature, character, and expression in us.  The Holy Spirit reveals the truth to us from the Word of God.  Then, true teaching of the Father and all things comes through the anointing from Christ that abides in you! V


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"I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith of the Son  of  God, who loved me and gave Himself for me"  (Gal.  2:20).

Have you ever seen yourself crucified on the cross in Christ when he was crucified? Perhaps, you never thought of it quite that way before.  However, Paul declares that we were crucified with Christ.  That means at the very same time.  When Christ died -- we died.  The most significant things in our Spiritual walk will be with our identification to and  with Christ.  Adam's old sin nature that he received from Satan was being put to death on that cross.   Adam's original sin penalty being passed on to us was also being put to death on that cross.  Everything that would ever cause a separation between me and my Heavenly Father was being put to death on that cross.  Some Christians are still attempting to put to death things today.  The real root of these things involve religious activity doing things today, that already were completed and done by Christ on the cross. We need a full Holy Spirit revelation renewing our mind, with our identification to the Christ that we were co-crucified with on the cross.

Not only were we with Him in His crucifixion and death on the cross, but since our Spirit rebirthing, we are now alive together with Him in His resurrection life.  We are now living a Spirit-shared life with Christ.  For "he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (I Cor. 6:17). That is why Paul says, that you me actually being seeing me here in the flesh living. Paul clearly stated the truth, "it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me" (Gal. 2:20a). This is a difficult statement for the natural mind to accept.  We will surely need the help of the Holy Spirit our teacher and helper.  The natural man cannot see or hear this truth.  The Spirit speaks, shows, and reveals this to those who truly love God (I Cor. 2:9,10).  If you don't want to see this reality and truth of Christ, you will never see it or hear it.  If you really love God and are seeking Him and not just things, you are available for the Holy Spirit's revelation of this eternal liberating secret.

Paul goes even further and tells us that he lives no longer by his faith, but the faith of  the Son of God.  Paul lives by the faith or faithfulness of Christ in him as his life. The Holy Spirit is going to reveal Christ so that we can move from our faith to His faith (Rom. 1:17). Paul tells us that Christ gave Himself up for me.  In the Greek text this clearly declares  that this part is not past but ever present.  Our blessed Lord Jesus Christ is now living  in every member of  the many-membered Body of Christ, and Christ is at intervals giving Himself up today to live and be expressed through you as you. What marvelous love!  What marvelous grace, that Christ lives in me! V


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"But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear" (I Pet. 3:15, KJV and NKJ combined).

As Christians we need to passionately love God and let His life in us flow out of us with His agape love toward others (I Pet. 3:8).  We abide in Him and His agape love, for that is the mind of unity in the fellowship in the Spirit (I John 4:16; Phil. 2:1-2).  The Christ-life is a love-life. Not only does living the Christ-life change you, it also helps change all those round about you in your sphere of influence.  There are some, that may only see Jesus in and through you to them.  You may be the only Jesus person that they truly know.  This is why letting the Holy Spirit transform and renew the mind to the mind of Christ is so important for you and others (I Cor. 2:10-13,16).  The mind of Christ in us is used to spiritually discern and spiritually judge all things in the Spirit (I Cor. 2:14-16).  We are an expression of Christ, who operates in us with this transformed mind of Christ.

The more the mind is transformed by the Holy Spirit, when and if we make the right choices, the more Christ can flow in and through us for others.  The more the mind is transformed the more Christ will be able flow spontaneously in and through us, as we yield to Him and make the right choices.  Spontaneous Christ-life living and expression through us is the pressing toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus (Phil. 3:14).  Paul counted all things loss, for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord (Phil. 3:7).  Spontaneous Christ-life living and expression through us is true evidence of His Lordship.  Paul clearly affirmed that this is mature or clear mind thinking, and if we should think anything otherwise, God will eventually reveal it to us if we are open to truth (Phil. 3:15).

Sooner, if not later, those in our sphere of influence that are observing the Christ-life in us will ask us certain questions about Christ and Christianity. The same mind of Christ that we spontaneously lived the Christ-life with, will also be used to spiritually discern and spiritually judge all things in the Spirit to answer these questions.  As Paul told Timothy, "Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching" (II Tim. 4:2).  As Peter states it, "be ready always to give an answer  to everyone who asks" (I Pet. 3:15).  That's not being ready some of the time, but always being ready.  Notice, that Jesus did not have to stop and pray to get an answer.  Jesus always was ready with the right answer, and Jesus chose to do everything as a man, even though He was all God.  That means that if we are regularly in tune with the Father, and with the mind of Christ.  Spontaneously living the Christ-life, we will be ready always to give an answer – His answer of truth to those that ask! V

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