Why I No Longer Believe in the 7 years of Tribulation

[Guest]

When he calls anyone who believes differently than he does pew sheep and has to tell you how much eschatology he knows, like he is some kind of brilliant authority on the subject, it kind of discredits anything he has to say. He may be 100% right but insults and arrogance is not a good way to get your point across.

You beat me to it. Well said.

Insults and arrogance . . . perhaps the gentleman should have a look at Gal 5:22-23 where Paul lists the fruit of the Spirit pretty clearly. Something is lacking is all I'm saying.

[Babbler]

I often read these arguments concerning Daniel and end times prophecies, I have been taught those errors. I read the debates and how people espouse their knowledge of eschatology. And the whole debate is sad because Daniel has nothing to do with eschatology. Apparently some bibles throw in their interpretations mixed with translations. No where does it say the one cut off was the Messiah, that is an interpretation. But many will continue this argument while refusing to research the truth that the one cut off was Onias III and the little horn was Antiochus IV. Some seem encapable of exercising discernment. But thr errors will continue and people will spend their last breath defending them.

[Bold Believer]

I often read these arguments concerning Daniel and end times prophecies, I have been taught those errors. I read the debates and how people espouse their knowledge of eschatology. And the whole debate is sad because Daniel has nothing to do with eschatology. Apparently some bibles throw in their interpretations mixed with translations. No where does it say the one cut off was the Messiah, that is an interpretation. But many will continue this argument while refusing to research the truth that the one cut off was Onias III and the little horn was Antiochus IV. Some seem encapable of exercising discernment. But thr errors will continue and people will spend their last breath defending them.

One of the problems is that most everyone thinks that eschatology has to do always with the Second Coming. It doesn't. Eschatos means last in order, but not necessarily last in time. Daniel's prophecy has to do not with the 2d Coming, but the end of the Jewish age. All 70 AD did was end the types and shadows of the Jewish Age and usher in the Messianic age.

The ending of the daily sacrifice mentioned in Daniel refers to Christ's atonement once and for all which ended the need for the rituals. Christ's death occurred in the midst of the 70th week.

[He giveth more grace]

I still believe in the seven year trib, because the saints are to arrive on the scene after the trib, but first the seven year Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

[Larry 2]

i used to believe in the 7 year tribulation, but the more i think about it the less curtain i am for this main reason- jesus said know one can know when his return will be as it will be like a theif in the night. if the 7yr trib. theory is correct then we would be able to pinpoint the date of christ return just by counting down from the 1st day of the 7yr tribulation

Matthew 24:22 ". . . for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

[jasoncran]

so in this trib what will be taught on the rapture verses?

it will be noticed when that happens and paul said that i didnt happen then and now it did so what will the trib saints have to look to when they read the word? another thing is when the restrainer is removed im sure the ac will show up if that is true.

[j102]

i used to believe in the 7 year tribulation, but the more i think about it the less curtain i am for this main reason- jesus said know one can know when his return will be as it will be like a theif in the night. if the 7yr trib. theory is correct then we would be able to pinpoint the date of christ return just by counting down from the 1st day of the 7yr tribulation

Matthew 24:22 ". . . for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

and?

[Larry 2]

so in this trib what will be taught on the rapture verses?

it will be noticed when that happens and paul said that i didnt happen then and now it did so what will the trib saints have to look to when they read the word? another thing is when the restrainer is removed im sure the ac will show up if that is true.

You didn't quote what or who you are referring to, and so I'll inject that there is a difference in the trial of our faith (Sufferings) in 1 Peter 1:7 as a Christian that brings growth and reward to our lives, and that of the temptation to come upon all the world in Revelation 3:10. 2 Timothy 2:15 tells us to rightly divide the word of truth which I don't always do either, and 2 Peter 3:18 tells us to grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Blessings in Christ Jesus.

[jasoncran]

so in this trib what will be taught on the rapture verses?

it will be noticed when that happens and paul said that i didnt happen then and now it did so what will the trib saints have to look to when they read the word? another thing is when the restrainer is removed im sure the ac will show up if that is true.

You didn't quote what or who you are referring to, and so I'll inject that there is a difference in the trial of our faith (Sufferings) in 1 Peter 1:7 as a Christian that brings growth and reward to our lives, and that of the temptation to come upon all the world in Revelation 3:10. 2 Timothy 2:15 tells us to rightly divide the word of truth which I don't always do either, and 2 Peter 3:18 tells us to grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Blessings in Christ Jesus.

all they that shall live godly lives shall suffer persecution per paul to timothy.

so when we are persecuted why did the jesus say that blessed are they that persecuted for theirs is the kingdom of god

2 timothy 3

12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

thats a promise

[jasoncran]

in one thessialonians it says this

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

that is the rapture is it not and when it happen how it comfor the trib saints as that has just happen so they get what? the wrath of god to deal with.