Candidate barred for improper command of english

[amor]

But why can,t she stand for election if she wants?

Why can't Spanish-speaking people take the time to learn English?

Our laws and documents are all written in English. A governing official who has has difficulty communicating the language of the written law and documents can create a lot of problems.

And why shouldn't people have a right to vote for if they want?

I missed something - where is it mentioned a legal citizen is being barred from voting?

Sorry vote for "her" (I was posting from my mobile- small keypad big fingers, bad eyes etc). People are denied the right to vote for her despite her being a US citizen.

[amor]

Matthiajah you are the one rejecting the right of the people of San Luis to exercise their individual democratic liberties by telling them they can only vote for candidates who conform.

Actually, No! No one has denied her the right to speak Spanish and even teach it to her children in the privacy of her own home. No one has denied anyone the right to Vote.

..and the serpent was more subtle than any other beast in the field, which the Lord God had made.........

Don't you just love exposition? You're good at this my friend.

Is Lord God unkind or less than Righteous to demand a standard?

That's not what I said. I pointed out that by denying her the right to stand the deny others the opportunity to vote for her. They had elections in the USSR, but you could only vote for thecandidates chosen by party committees.

[MorningGlory]

That's not what I said. I pointed out that by denying her the right to stand the deny others the opportunity to vote for her. They had elections in the USSR, but you could only vote for thecandidates chosen by party committees.

Let's move the situation to your neighborhood, amor. You have a person attempting to run for office in your district that has only rudimentary English skills but is proficient in German. Do you seriously believe the locals would be best served by her? Would it be unfair in the U.K. to expect an elected official to speak English?

[amor]

Matthiajah you are the one rejecting the right of the people of San Luis to exercise their individual democratic liberties by telling them they can only vote for candidates who conform.

amor, we have standards set for those who want to run for office. Having a good command of the English language is one of those standards. If someone wants to run for office, they need to meet those standards. It is not a free for all over here.

So democracy can only work if candidates deemed undersirable are excluded from election. As in Animal Farmthe rule seems to be "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". She may be an inadequate candidate, but it should be for the electorate to decide if they want to elect her, not as in this case a committee summoned by her main political opponent.

[amor]

That's not what I said. I pointed out that by denying her the right to stand the deny others the opportunity to vote for her. They had elections in the USSR, but you could only vote for thecandidates chosen by party committees.

Let's move the situation to your neighborhood, amor. You have a person attempting to run for office in your district that has only rudimentary English skills but is proficient in German. Do you seriously believe the locals would be best served by her? Would it be unfair in the U.K. to expect an elected official to speak English?

It would be wrong to deny her the right to stand for office, it would be the choice of me and the other voters in the ward or constituency to decide whether we should vote for her. The pont of democracy is that we choose who represents us, if we screw up we should blame ourselves.

Do you think that we need committees to weed out unacceptable candidates? Do you consider yourself too stupid to make up oyur own mind?

[nebula]

OK, let me try this again:

But why can,t she stand for election if she wants?

Why can't Spanish-speaking people take the time to learn English?

Our laws and documents are all written in English. A governing official who has has difficulty communicating the language of the written law and documents can create a lot of problems.

[nebula]

And why shouldn't people have a right to vote for if they want?

I missed something - where is it mentioned a legal citizen is being barred from voting?

Sorry vote for "her" (I was posting from my mobile- small keypad big fingers, bad eyes etc). People are denied the right to vote for her despite her being a US citizen.

It sets a precedence.

[MorningGlory]

That's not what I said. I pointed out that by denying her the right to stand the deny others the opportunity to vote for her. They had elections in the USSR, but you could only vote for thecandidates chosen by party committees.

Let's move the situation to your neighborhood, amor. You have a person attempting to run for office in your district that has only rudimentary English skills but is proficient in German. Do you seriously believe the locals would be best served by her? Would it be unfair in the U.K. to expect an elected official to speak English?

It would be wrong to deny her the right to stand for office, it would be the choice of me and the other voters in the ward or constituency to decide whether we should vote for her. The pont of democracy is that we choose who represents us, if we screw up we should blame ourselves.

Do you think that we need committees to weed out unacceptable candidates? Do you consider yourself too stupid to make up oyur own mind?

No and no....the point here is that the woman can't understand the requirements of the office, or the desires of her would-be voting public, and doesn't meet the criterial to even run, because she is not proficient in English. I would take it a step further (if they left the laws to me) and make an I.Q. test a requirement as well.

[Matthitjah]

OK, let me try this again:

But why can,t she stand for election if she wants?

Why can't Spanish-speaking people take the time to learn English?

Our laws and documents are all written in English. A governing official who has has difficulty communicating the language of the written law and documents can create a lot of problems.

That would be if we lived in a pure Democarcy. We live in a Represenative Republic and the Wisdom of our Founding left us with certain requirements like being a U.S. Citizen to hold office. It would also follow that someone should be able to perform the office with a standard of language skills. Shall we then require that all of the folks including the elctorate that have interaction with her to know Spanish because she can't understand them? How about the local elected Board that will have to deal with her?

How about we take your example to the extreme and elect someone who can't read and write?

You're argument stems from your desire to dumb everyone down so that we will all be equal. We will thus all be the poorer and be destroyed by our lack of a standard.

Like I said, "You're real good at what you do."

[amor]

If people are stupid enough to vote for someone they can't communicate with, surely that is their problem! Do Americans really need comittees of nannies to preselect suitable candidates for office? Do you really think your fellow citizens are too thick to make rational choices?