smoking

[Guest shiloh357]

I am  just glad I never had that monkey on my back.  I am glad to see that some of you have been delivered from smoking.  Praying that the rest of you will enjoy that deliverance as well.  

[Guest shiloh357]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

[missmuffet]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

I am not all bent out of shape.I am just being honest like you often are shiloh.Just the truth.But if you are speaking of smoking I also needed to incorporate some other sins and addictions to bring my point across.

[Guest shiloh357]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

I am not all bent out of shape.I am just being honest like you often are shiloh.Just the truth.But if you are speaking of smoking I also needed to incorporate some other sins and addictions to bring my point across.

Yeah, but acting like we are only majoring on smoking isn't a very good point since we have threads on drinking, gambling, smoking, homosexuality, premarital sex, adultery, New Age activities and a host of other sins.   No one is ignoring what you call "insignificant" sins.   it just happens to be that those are not the topic of this thread.  

[RustyAngeL]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

If I did that I apologise did not mean to step on any toes.

I would think that smoking is some form of slow suicide no? I believe that if someone smokes to the point of becoming sick and keeps smoking knowing that they will die if they keep smoking is pretty much like suicide. And I don't think that ppl who commit suicide go to heaven, maybe not hell either (if there is a place in between these two?).

 

 

Theres no in between place, limbo is a false doctrine, hell gets thrown in the lake of fire and God makes a new heaven and a new earth and we all live in New Jerusalem not heaven. Read the last couple of pages of Revelations for all the details.

The current heaven and earth are going to be destroyed with a loud noise and fervent heat. Sounds scary but its necessary.

 

So you think that per say.... a tribe of people living in natural harmony in a remote jungle and never had a chance to even know that the Bible exist will get thrown into a lake of fire? I don't think so...

 

 

I don't smoke (cause im 14), but I don't think there's anything wrong with it (provided that you do it at an age that it's legal) unless you're addicted to it. I think the same for drinking, too.

 

I don't smoke because I am 14!" I love that!!!

 

Honey, I am not putting you down, but you would have to be over sixty to really appreciate the humor in what you said.

 

lol I'm glad it made you laugh

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  As yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

 

I don't recall calling anyone a sinner.  I just know what it does to you physically and yes there are a lot of things we do that can make us unhealthy.  

I use to work for someone who drank at least 50 cups of coffee a day not to mention a 5 pack a day habit of smoking.  

I just know what God wants in my life.  No smoking , no drinking.  I don't have a problem with anyone who wants a drink once in a while or a glass of wine with dinner or whenever.  I just made a  promise to God in my life no smoking no drinking... ever.  That is just me.  My convictions. I have to remain true to what I promised.   I hope everyone understands.

 

 

 

 

[missmuffet]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

I am not all bent out of shape.I am just being honest like you often are shiloh.Just the truth.But if you are speaking of smoking I also needed to incorporate some other sins and addictions to bring my point across.

Yeah, but acting like we are only majoring on smoking isn't a very good point since we have threads on drinking, gambling, smoking, homosexuality, premarital sex, adultery, New Age activities and a host of other sins.   No one is ignoring what you call "insignificant" sins.   it just happens to be that those are not the topic of this thread.  

So you are saying that no one ever goes off what the OP is talking about?I have even seen you go down the rabbit trail shiloh.Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Edited October 14, 2015 by bopeep1909

[RustyAngeL]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

I am not all bent out of shape.I am just being honest like you often are shiloh.Just the truth.But if you are speaking of smoking I also needed to incorporate some other sins and addictions to bring my point across.

Yeah, but acting like we are only majoring on smoking isn't a very good point since we have threads on drinking, gambling, smoking, homosexuality, premarital sex, adultery, New Age activities and a host of other sins.   No one is ignoring what you call "insignificant" sins.   it just happens to be that those are not the topic of this thread.  

So you are saying that no one ever goes off what the OP is talking about?I have even seen you go down the rabbit trail shiloh.

I think I'm just going to sit back and watch the fur fly!

[missmuffet]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

If I did that I apologise did not mean to step on any toes.

 

I would think that smoking is some form of slow suicide no? I believe that if someone smokes to the point of becoming sick and keeps smoking knowing that they will die if they keep smoking is pretty much like suicide. And I don't think that ppl who commit suicide go to heaven, maybe not hell either (if there is a place in between these two?).

 

 

Theres no in between place, limbo is a false doctrine, hell gets thrown in the lake of fire and God makes a new heaven and a new earth and we all live in New Jerusalem not heaven. Read the last couple of pages of Revelations for all the details.

The current heaven and earth are going to be destroyed with a loud noise and fervent heat. Sounds scary but its necessary.

 

So you think that per say.... a tribe of people living in natural harmony in a remote jungle and never had a chance to even know that the Bible exist will get thrown into a lake of fire? I don't think so...

 

 

 

I don't smoke (cause im 14), but I don't think there's anything wrong with it (provided that you do it at an age that it's legal) unless you're addicted to it. I think the same for drinking, too.

 

I don't smoke because I am 14!" I love that!!!

 

Honey, I am not putting you down, but you would have to be over sixty to really appreciate the humor in what you said.

 

lol I'm glad it made you laugh

 

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  As yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

 

I don't recall calling anyone a sinner.  I just know what it does to you physically and yes there are a lot of things we do that can make us unhealthy.  

I use to work for someone who drank at least 50 cups of coffee a day not to mention a 5 pack a day habit of smoking.  

I just know what God wants in my life.  No smoking , no drinking.  I don't have a problem with anyone who wants a drink once in a while or a glass of wine with dinner or whenever.  I just made a  promise to God in my life no smoking no drinking... ever.  That is just me.  My convictions. I have to remain true to what I promised.   I hope everyone understands.

 

 

 

 

I don't have a problem with anyone who wants a drink once in awhile either even though I do not drink.It is better for your body to not get obese,don't smoke and don't drink.Although I have known of people who have taken the best care of their body and were athletic and were extremely careful with what they ate and put into their body and they were having a quadruple bypass.It is all about the genes.

[Guest shiloh357]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

I am not all bent out of shape.I am just being honest like you often are shiloh.Just the truth.But if you are speaking of smoking I also needed to incorporate some other sins and addictions to bring my point across.

Yeah, but acting like we are only majoring on smoking isn't a very good point since we have threads on drinking, gambling, smoking, homosexuality, premarital sex, adultery, New Age activities and a host of other sins.   No one is ignoring what you call "insignificant" sins.   it just happens to be that those are not the topic of this thread.  

So you are saying that no one ever goes off what the OP is talking about?I have even seen you go down the rabbit trail shiloh.Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

I am not talking about not going down rabbit trails.   That's not what is happening here.   We are talking about the sin of smoking and you are, for all intents and purposes raising other issues as if by talking about smoking in this thread we are ignoring other sins, and I am saying that it's not the case that you are making an issue out of a non-issue because we have threads on those issues, too.   If someone starts taking this thread down a path about gambling, that's not a problem.  The problem is your insinuation that we are hammering on one sin at the exclusion of other sins, and I am simply saying it's not a fair accusation.

[missmuffet]

I wonder how many Christians still smoke?? I do and I know I shouldn't and I have tried to stop. My main problem is that I enjoy a cigarette with a cup of coffee, after a meal, when i sit down to rest, and in between. For me a cigarette is a stimulant when I am tired or can't think straight; and a seditave when I am upset. I feel like I have leprosy when I light up anywhere but my house.. i respect others who don't smoke and if they visit me... I will smoke outside. Do you smoke????

No I don't smoke.  And I"m sure there are a lot of Christians that do.  However I worked in the medical field all my life and saw the results of this habit from having to live on oxygen to dying from lung cancer.  Our bodies are a temple of the Holy Spirit we need to watch what we put in that temple and what kind of a testimony you are putting out there.  You sound as if your replacing a cigarette for what the Lord could do for you if you trust Him and let Him do His work in your life.  Ask yourself a question.  Would you invite Jesus to join you for a cup of coffee with a cigarette in your hand our would you rather just sit with your Savior and tell Him how much you love Him and thank Him for all He has done for you?

I feel sure anyone would not want to smoke in front of Jesus and most likely would not if given a chance.  when they see him they will have already left the physical body which holds the addiction.

and second Jesus knows who smokes on earth and where their heart is; if he were to present himself to a smoker he would not be surprised about it.

 

What about people who are gluttons?That is just as much as a sin.Do you like to eat?What about gambling?What about those who break all of those "insignificant" laws such as going over the speed limit,going through a red light?You can not point your finger at just one sin.We are all sinners.

I don't think anyone is pointing at just one sin.  This thread is about smoking.  We have other threads about other sins too, so you don't need to get all bent out of shape about it.

 

I am not all bent out of shape.I am just being honest like you often are shiloh.Just the truth.But if you are speaking of smoking I also needed to incorporate some other sins and addictions to bring my point across.

Yeah, but acting like we are only majoring on smoking isn't a very good point since we have threads on drinking, gambling, smoking, homosexuality, premarital sex, adultery, New Age activities and a host of other sins.   No one is ignoring what you call "insignificant" sins.   it just happens to be that those are not the topic of this thread.  

So you are saying that no one ever goes off what the OP is talking about?I have even seen you go down the rabbit trail shiloh.Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

I am not talking about not going down rabbit trails.   That's not what is happening here.   We are talking about the sin of smoking and you are, for all intents and purposes raising other issues as if by talking about smoking in this thread we are ignoring other sins, and I am saying that it's not the case that you are making an issue out of a non-issue because we have threads on those issues, too.   If someone starts taking this thread down a path about gambling, that's not a problem.  The problem is your insinuation that we are hammering on one sin at the exclusion of other sins, and I am simply saying it's not a fair accusation.

Goodbye Shiloh.You can get the last word in.How's that?