Perry Stone

[other one]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPLrbpz1vuw

[goldust59]

Very informative. Thanks!

[gdemoss]

I have a very slow internet connection. Can someone give me the readers digest version?

Gary

[goldust59]

I have a very slow internet connection. Can someone give me the readers digest version?

Gary

He goes into detail about how the followers of Islam view their prophecies, which is different than how we see our prophecies. He discusses the timelines & how they believe they 'help' their prophecies come to pass, based on the timelines of their prophecies. He gives detail of things that have happened, or been made to happen to fulfill their teachings.

He talks about how Muslims are moving into & basically taking over---population wise--- cities here in the states. He also has a lot of info about our president & his relationship with the Muslim faith. Also how they view him in light of their prophecies.

I would have to listen again & take notes to be more specific. I am traveling at the moment & don't have time to do so now, or I would. It is a very informative listen! When I get home the end of June, I plan on listening to it again without the distraction of my traveling companions.

[gdemoss]

I have a very slow internet connection. Can someone give me the readers digest version?

Gary

He goes into detail about how the followers of Islam view their prophecies, which is different than how we see our prophecies. He discusses the timelines & how they believe they 'help' their prophecies come to pass, based on the timelines of their prophecies. He gives detail of things that have happened, or been made to happen to fulfill their teachings.

He talks about how Muslims are moving into & basically taking over---population wise--- cities here in the states. He also has a lot of info about our president & his relationship with the Muslim faith. Also how they view him in light of their prophecies.

I would have to listen again & take notes to be more specific. I am traveling at the moment & don't have time to do so now, or I would. It is a very informative listen! When I get home the end of June, I plan on listening to it again without the distraction of my traveling companions.

Bless you for taking time to inform me Deb, your the best. I wonder at time whether the 'mark' will be Islamic related as they are taking over the world a little at a time. They also are ones who have no beef with killing off the opposition.

In His Love,

Gary

[mizzdy]

I have a very slow internet connection. Can someone give me the readers digest version?

Gary

He goes into detail about how the followers of Islam view their prophecies, which is different than how we see our prophecies. He discusses the timelines & how they believe they 'help' their prophecies come to pass, based on the timelines of their prophecies. He gives detail of things that have happened, or been made to happen to fulfill their teachings.

He talks about how Muslims are moving into & basically taking over---population wise--- cities here in the states. He also has a lot of info about our president & his relationship with the Muslim faith. Also how they view him in light of their prophecies.

I would have to listen again & take notes to be more specific. I am traveling at the moment & don't have time to do so now, or I would. It is a very informative listen! When I get home the end of June, I plan on listening to it again without the distraction of my traveling companions.

Bless you for taking time to inform me Deb, your the best. I wonder at time whether the 'mark' will be Islamic related as they are taking over the world a little at a time. They also are ones who have no beef with killing off the opposition.

In His Love,

Gary

They seem to have already taken their 'mark'. When we look at marks in scriptures it can leads us to the idea of the king taking his signet ring and putting his mark on paper, over your life. If we look back where Ester gets the king to turn the tables on Haman (booo lol ) the king set his mark and that carried out the kings order. In many ways I see the mark as its seen in scripture something we do as a result of being marked by our King, we obey His ways, we become His light on the earth and that is what separates us from the rest of the pack so to speak. Islam sure has taken up the 'mark' of satan in oh so many ways, using the call to prayers to disrupt others sleep, radio and the net to recruit new members to go forth and kill His called out people. We could even go as far to say that the cutting of the foreheads and palms, wearing the colors of islam are all identifying marks. Theres so much in the word mark in Hebrew and Greek, and well I just dont think its a micro chip or anything like that I believe its all about who we choose as our head, but thats not popular thinking and well I did take this off topic! sorry!

shalom,

Mizz

[gdemoss]

I have a very slow internet connection. Can someone give me the readers digest version?

Gary

He goes into detail about how the followers of Islam view their prophecies, which is different than how we see our prophecies. He discusses the timelines & how they believe they 'help' their prophecies come to pass, based on the timelines of their prophecies. He gives detail of things that have happened, or been made to happen to fulfill their teachings.

He talks about how Muslims are moving into & basically taking over---population wise--- cities here in the states. He also has a lot of info about our president & his relationship with the Muslim faith. Also how they view him in light of their prophecies.

I would have to listen again & take notes to be more specific. I am traveling at the moment & don't have time to do so now, or I would. It is a very informative listen! When I get home the end of June, I plan on listening to it again without the distraction of my traveling companions.

Bless you for taking time to inform me Deb, your the best. I wonder at time whether the 'mark' will be Islamic related as they are taking over the world a little at a time. They also are ones who have no beef with killing off the opposition.

In His Love,

Gary

They seem to have already taken their 'mark'. When we look at marks in scriptures it can leads us to the idea of the king taking his signet ring and putting his mark on paper, over your life. If we look back where Ester gets the king to turn the tables on Haman (booo lol ) the king set his mark and that carried out the kings order. In many ways I see the mark as its seen in scripture something we do as a result of being marked by our King, we obey His ways, we become His light on the earth and that is what separates us from the rest of the pack so to speak. Islam sure has taken up the 'mark' of satan in oh so many ways, using the call to prayers to disrupt others sleep, radio and the net to recruit new members to go forth and kill His called out people. We could even go as far to say that the cutting of the foreheads and palms, wearing the colors of islam are all identifying marks. Theres so much in the word mark in Hebrew and Greek, and well I just dont think its a micro chip or anything like that I believe its all about who we choose as our head, but thats not popular thinking and well I did take this off topic! sorry!

shalom,

Mizz

Interesting Mizz. Jesus is after all our 'head' and our 'right hand' would be a symbol of where our power comes from. Do I have the 'mark' of my Lord on my 'head'? Where do I get my power from?

Gary

[mizzdy]

They seem to have already taken their 'mark'. When we look at marks in scriptures it can leads us to the idea of the king taking his signet ring and putting his mark on paper, over your life. If we look back where Ester gets the king to turn the tables on Haman (booo lol ) the king set his mark and that carried out the kings order. In many ways I see the mark as its seen in scripture something we do as a result of being marked by our King, we obey His ways, we become His light on the earth and that is what separates us from the rest of the pack so to speak. Islam sure has taken up the 'mark' of satan in oh so many ways, using the call to prayers to disrupt others sleep, radio and the net to recruit new members to go forth and kill His called out people. We could even go as far to say that the cutting of the foreheads and palms, wearing the colors of islam are all identifying marks. Theres so much in the word mark in Hebrew and Greek, and well I just dont think its a micro chip or anything like that I believe its all about who we choose as our head, but thats not popular thinking and well I did take this off topic! sorry!

shalom,

Mizz

Interesting Mizz. Jesus is after all our 'head' and our 'right hand' would be a symbol of where our power comes from. Do I have the 'mark' of my Lord on my 'head'? Where do I get my power from?

Gary

It goes back to the Shema, Due. 6:4-8 "Sh'ma, Yisra'el! ADONAI Eloheinu, ADONAI echad [Hear, Isra'el! ADONAI our God, ADONAI is one]; and you are to love ADONAI your God with all your heart, all your being and all your resources. These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart; and you are to teach them carefully to your children. You are to talk about them when you sit at home, when you are traveling on the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of a headband around your forehead, 9 and write them on the door-frames of your house and on your gates.

This is where we get the idea that we are to always have His words, His ways in our heart, when they are in our heart that is what will guide and direct our hands in service and in love to others. Its also where the sect of Jews get that they are to actually tie and bind the box and straps to themselves. Our power comes for Yahweh doesn't it? It is His Spirit that brooded over the waters of the earth, it is His Spirit that empowers all believers. And as far as I am concerned I have the mark of Yah upon me, when I accepted Yeshua as my Lord and Savior, to have dominion over my life I am marked by Him. Thats how I see it anyhow. We are to 'hear and obey' Him He marks us with His Spirit, with His name and in His name alone can we carry out the things He sets in our path.

shalom,

Mizz

[OneLight]

Time will tell if it is a literal mark or a spiritual one. More then likely, it will be both. We follow our heart, and if our heart leads us to the Lord, we will refuse the literal mark. If not, we will accept it. That is my personal take on this issue, but as I said, time will tell.

[gdemoss]

Time will tell if it is a literal mark or a spiritual one. More then likely, it will be both. We follow our heart, and if our heart leads us to the Lord, we will refuse the literal mark. If not, we will accept it. That is my personal take on this issue, but as I said, time will tell.

There always seems to be a carnal counterpart to a spiritual truth. I see no reason why this should be any different. So I side with you on this issue as one will not be able to buy or sell without the mark but those who possess the literal mark will also be sold inside their hearts.

Mizzdy, I was looking for that verse but couldn't find it thank you! I knew that there was writings in the OT concerning having the word on the head and hand.

Gary