Is the United States spiritual Babylon??

[Jayyycuuup]

Personally I believe so, but before I elaborate on why I believe the U.S is Spiritual Babylon, I would like to see what others think.....

[Guest]

Personally I believe so, but before I elaborate on why I believe the U.S is Spiritual Babylon, I would like to see what others think.....

Babylon Is Real In Both The Spiritual

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. Revelation 17:1-6

And In The Physical World, As I Read It

Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. Revelation 18:6-10

And You Might Want To Look To Where Believers Are Daily Beheaded

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 20:4

[Jayyycuuup]

Personally I believe so, but before I elaborate on why I believe the U.S is Spiritual Babylon, I would like to see what others think.....

Yep, America who is the Major force in setting up Satellites sending the Word all over the Globe..... America who sends people to preach the Word in Hostile places, some giving their lives.......... America who deals with terrorist and ends up paying for most the bill........... America who if not standing in the way, what would China or Russia do to the rest of the World..............

Our Church alone spends over 60,000 a week to send out free DVD's CD's all over the Globe to remote places like Iraq, and it's in America.

Yep, America is evil................. compared to all the other God fearing countries like Japan, and France. We are devils compared to everyone else......... God is going to cook America for being the Spiritual Babylon......... sure thing buddy...

Good post.

This goes along with people who say things like "things are getting so bad, they pray Jesus will come soon." Not me. I love the earth that God has made. I have been blessed in many ways and am in no hurry to leave those blessings. A lot of people just talk to hear themselves talk.

I think there is something in the human condition that makes people enjoy (on some level) believing the negative.

I have seen people expound on this being the end times, the rapture is soon, tribulation is coming, this is the most evil period in history ever etc, etc.

Is this true...doesn't matter. Just believing it is exciting enough to some folks.

Good Point.

Instead of worrying about the future (or near future) I am doing my personal best to get the word of God out before its too late. It's just a shame what our country has came to.....

[TrackerJack]

Over $3 million a year in CDs?

You must be Joel Olsteen.

In the past 8 to 12 years, no other country has done more to eradicate Christianity and Judaism from the middle east than AMERICA. (through spreading democracy)

Look at:

The Gaza strip

Iraq

Egypt

Tunisia

Libya

and Syria

Let alone eradicating Christianity from the US.

Most of those old regimes were tolerant of Christianity. Not now. Christians and Jews are fleeing every one of those countries (including the US).

Wanna think about something crazy? Russia is coming to the defense of Assad in Syria. Assad protected the Christians. The US is arming the rebels who are destroying churches and killing Christians.

Now tell me America isn't Babylon.

[gdemoss]

If the blind lead the blind they shall both fall into the ditch. We live in a very sad day when those who call themselves Christians believe that this country is anywhere near right with God. Yeah, you can ask me as compared to who, as the whole world is going to hell just like the bible prophesied it would. Paul said those who compare themselves to themselves are not wise. It's game over and I will be hoping that God is planning to send his messengers to lead the righteous out of the city before he destroys it. I believe he will. Those carrying their "we are #1 flags" though the claim Christ, will go down with the ship.

Gary

[other one]

Keep in mind that there is a huge difference in "We the People" and the Government of the United States of America.

"We the People" in this country still do the work of the Gospel, and it is my personal belief is still a moral, caring people.

However our government and the people who run it may well be at least part of mystery Babylon.

The ten square miles of the Capitol Complex in Washington DC is legally not part of the United States of America. It has it's own laws,l pays no taxes, and answers to no one. It is not even under the constitution. it is a city state or Corporation as is the Vatican.

[JustinM]

Maybe the US isn't spiritual Babylon, but DC is spiritual Sodom and San Francisco - Gomorrah. Perhaps NYC and LA are the Spiritual Babylons of our nation. The heartland still has it's heart right with God, be we are being suffocated by East Coast and West Coast Humanism.

[Guest]

Personally I believe so, but before I elaborate on why I believe the U.S is Spiritual Babylon, I would like to see what others think.....

I don't, and I try very hard not to get patriotism or nationalism tangled up in my walk with the Lord. I'm a military brat, meaning that I grew up all over the world, and people are people where ever you go. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God, said Paul in Romans. I'm going to continue to follow Jesus and spread the good news while awaiting His return.

[Jayyycuuup]

Personally I believe so, but before I elaborate on why I believe the U.S is Spiritual Babylon, I would like to see what others think.....

I don't, and I try very hard not to get patriotism or nationalism tangled up in my walk with the Lord. I'm a military brat, meaning that I grew up all over the world, and people are people where ever you go. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God, said Paul in Romans. I'm going to continue to follow Jesus and spread the good news while awaiting His return.

Why dont you think the United states is Spiritual Babylon......

[Jayyycuuup]

TrackerJack

Over $3 million a year in CDs?

You must be Joel Olsteen.

You think 3 million is a lot of money? To get the Word out? Your kidding right?

Right now we are in the process of building a warehouse and production facility to meet the demand. It's going to be a multi million dollar project.

Are you thinking like Judas? We could sell the material instead....... ya, and just keep the money, telling everyone we will eventually give it to the poor........ God is big, and gets the best.

JustinM

You have a good point........... America is still the Heart beat of God and we pray for our country. We do have opposition but not near as bad as Paul had opposition. While we may not like our corrupt goverment, we are not put to death on a daily bases and allowed to run the Word of God all over the globe. That won't change.

If something Go's Boo!!!! we ought to be stronger than this and have faith. Jesus never promised a cakewalk, but Bless God we have it lots more easy then He and his 12 had it.

If you can't have faith for your country and speak positive things........ My suggestion would be to move to Iraq............ then come back and tell me what Spiritual Babylon looks like............. Get some faith folks.

Blessings.

Many deny that the Mystery Babylon of Revelation 18 is even speaking about America (and some deny that the USA, the greatest nation in history, is even mentioned in prophecy). While it is true that Revelation 18 is not referring merely to the destruction of the World Trade Center, it is clear to me that the final destruction of the United States of America is mainly what Revelation 18 is about.

Babylon is scripturally described as the great eagle with a head of gold.(Hmm...America's symbol is an eagle....a coincidence??? I think not) Babylon is the great eagle that comes unto Lebanon, with another great eagle shooting forth her branches in Ezekiel 17.

Apparently, the sins of Babylon are so numerous, that her sins are compared to reaching from earth to heaven!!

What are some of these sins???

The idolatry of Hollywood and television and the wickedness they portray. This evil has been exported world wide!! Besides idolatry, there is arrogance; pride; greed; rebellion; witchcraft; legalized murder of unborn babies; acceptance of homosexuality as a normal alternative lifesyle; evil music with evil lyrics; pornography. Even though other nations of the world are also guilty of these sins, The United States is the world leader, it sets the trends of the world! It is commonly called the American Pop Culture, that is, the "American way of life" that is exported world wide.

I can think of no other place in the world today that qualifies to be Babylon the Great other than the United States of America.(Sadly)

Edited June 26, 2012 by your friend Jacob