Guest shiloh357 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm not sure how this isn't an infringement upon a constitutional right. It is not banning anyone from owning as man guns as they want to own. It doesn't limit how much ammo a person can buy. It is simply a means of taking note of unusal purchases that don't reflect how normal gunowners usually buy their guns. The aurora shooter bought four semi automatics and 6,000 rounds of ammo in a very short period of time, about 3-4 weeks. If there were a way to track those purchases, it could have sent up a red flag to law enforcement to start asking him some questions and let him know that he is being watched. It might have uncovered what we now know about him before he had a chance to go on his rampage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm not sure how this isn't an infringement upon a constitutional right. It is not banning anyone from owning as man guns as they want to own. It doesn't limit how much ammo a person can buy. It is simply a means of taking note of unusal purchases that don't reflect how normal gunowners usually buy their guns. The aurora shooter bought four semi automatics and 6,000 rounds of ammo in a very short period of time, about 3-4 weeks. If there were a way to track those purchases, it could have sent up a red flag to law enforcement to start asking him some questions and let him know that he is being watched. It might have uncovered what we now know about him before he had a chance to go on his rampage. It's not under the second amendment necessarily, it's under the constitutionally implied right to privacy that the supreme court has reaffirmed on multiple occasions over the past century. In other words, keeping records such as this on people whom have committed no crime and are just exercising their rights as free citizens to purchase ammunition is an infringement on privacy. Federal procedures with regards to firearms purchases even mimic this. When a criminal background check is ran by a gun store prior to selling a firearm to a person, they can only keep the paperwork a finite period of time and the government is not allowed to track the purchases, just perform the background checks. You could probably get something like this legalized on a state or local level (and this isn't even guaranteed), but I seriously doubt the ability of the federal government to do it and have it be upheld as constitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm not sure how this isn't an infringement upon a constitutional right. It is not banning anyone from owning as man guns as they want to own. It doesn't limit how much ammo a person can buy. It is simply a means of taking note of unusal purchases that don't reflect how normal gunowners usually buy their guns. The aurora shooter bought four semi automatics and 6,000 rounds of ammo in a very short period of time, about 3-4 weeks. If there were a way to track those purchases, it could have sent up a red flag to law enforcement to start asking him some questions and let him know that he is being watched. It might have uncovered what we now know about him before he had a chance to go on his rampage. It's not under the second amendment necessarily, it's under the constitutionally implied right to privacy that the supreme court has reaffirmed on multiple occasions over the past century. In other words, keeping records such as this on people whom have committed no crime and are just exercising their rights as free citizens to purchase ammunition is an infringement on privacy. Federal procedures with regards to firearms purchases even mimic this. When a criminal background check is ran buy a gun store prior to selling a firearm to a person, they can only keep the paperwork a finite period of time and the government is not allowed to track the purchases, just perform the background checks. You could probably get something like this legalized on a state or local level (and this isn't even guaranteed), but I seriously doubt the ability of the federal government to do it and have it be upheld as constitutional. Okay, I see your point, and it is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted August 8, 2012 you know, first off, he was smart not to say anything about gun control laws. Gun Controls a hot topic, and right now the NRA is the largest legal entity in the US (even bigger then the ACLU) And hes not going to take a stand one way or the other, it could sway the election against him. As far as the soul searching goes, it pains me to say this, it really does, but hes right. America does need to do some soul searching, and they need to put God in their souls. It would solve the gun violence problem 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2012 Anyone come up with a solution? How do you identify who the next shooter will be or how to keep guns with only the right people? Any ideas? It didnt work for Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2012 Anyone come up with a solution? How do you identify who the next shooter will be or how to keep guns with only the right people? Any ideas? It didnt work for Norway. Overall excepting that circumstance, it sure works better than America. Look at Japan. http://en.wikipedia....ated_death_rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVE SONGS Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 131 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,188 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 8 Joined: 04/10/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2012 Well, I am for manditory gun laws....... everyone should have one...... or two, and be forced to take classes to safely use them. Yes... I agree also. I think that it, won't be long that almost every household in America will have a gun for protection, against an intruder. Times are not like it use to be anymore folks. We have more each day , people from other countries,that come here to live. People of different culture. We have people from other countries that live here, in my neighborhood. Who knows if your neighbor is not a terrorist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVE SONGS Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 131 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,188 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 8 Joined: 04/10/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2012 There are kooks all over the world. The fault is with the person holding the gun, and when he pulls the trigger. It may help if they would , run a background check on the person buying a gun...or amunition. It would help some. But, even a person with a clean record can buy a gun, and use it to kill himself or, another person. We'll just never know, what a person will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,262 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,989 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2012 Humans are simply the scourge of the earth...... we need to do away with humans, then guns and knives wouldn't be a problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted August 8, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted August 8, 2012 My best advice on gun control: USE BOTH HANDS AND SQUEEEEZE THE TRIGGER......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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