Who is the lawless one in 2Thessalonians

[silviawang]

2Thessalonians 2

³Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one^* is revealed, the one destined for destruction.^{* 4}He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God. ⁵Do you not remember that I told you these things when I was still with you? ⁶And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed when his time comes. ⁷For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who now restrains it is removed. ⁸And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus^* will destroy^* with the breath of his mouth, annihilating him by the manifestation of his coming. ⁹The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, ¹⁰and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. ¹¹For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, ¹²so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.

The features of this lawless one

1- he came before Paul,but in Paul’s age that one was be restrained

2- His teaching/ declaring:

4

He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God.

3- He could perform signs and wonders, but attention:

lying

wonders

And,do you have some idea who is this lawless one?

[Babbler]

First, to explain whom he is not. Let us clarify the type of books Daniel and Revelation belong to. They are called apocalyptic writings and are not books of prophecy. The word comes from the Greek Apokalypsis, meaning revelation of divine mysteries," This style of Jewish literature was commonly written between 2nd century BC and 2nd century AD. There are other books of Jewish apocalypses, but deemed non-canonical.: the three books of Enoch, the Second Book of Esdras, the apocalypse of Baruch, and the Ascension of

Isaiah. Found amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls were the Christian apocalypses of Peter, and of Thomas, and the Shepher of Hermas

Daniel was written during the time of Antiochus Epiphanes. The first 6 chapters are called similitudes. They are stories of Babylon and meant as examples for the Judaic church of 164 BC. The message is a kind of religious political tract. The message is not to abandon the faith in times of persecution. Those who die while serving the faith will get their rewards while those who do not persevere will land in the lake of fire. Daniel should never be applied to future prophecy except the Son of Man prophecy.

Revelation's message is the same. There were two seperate writings of Revelation, merged to form the present book. The first apocalypse occurred in the time of Nero, and its writings comprise chapters 4-11, preceded by the introduction. During the apocalypse of Domitian (thirty years later) the rest of Revelation (chapter 12-22) were composed, tying it in with the previous version (chapter 12)and at the same time introducing the seven letters to the churches. Up to chapter 12:3 is the Roman empire of the seven headed, ten horned, seven diadem beast. Chapter 13-22 is the time of the seven headed, ten horned, ten diadem beast (13:1) Diadems were headbands worn by royalty symbolizing rule of their kingdoms; the circular band is a symbol of the kingdoms boundaries. By the time of Domitian, two of Rome's seven provinces split up and Rome gained another making ten provinces or ten diadems.

Nero-Caesar in Hebrew is NRWN QSR, its value when gematria is applied

N=50

R=200

W=6

N=50

Q=100

S=60

R=200

For a total of 666

He suffered a mortal wound to his head after commiting suicide by slicing his throat. Domitian brings about the same type of persecution that Nero inflicted on the church. He is a type of reincarnate evil that personified Nero.

The false prophet is the Roman high priest. The dragon gives power and authority to the second beast to promote the first beast (emperor worship). The emperor of Rome possessed religious authority over the state, which was passed on to a priest (appointed by the emperor), and the priest was appointed for life. The priest was a state priest over all religions. Hence, the second beast, "used the authority of the first beast to promote its interests by making the world and all its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed." Sticking with the Roman myth that Nero would come back.

I could make a further commentary on Revelation and Daniel but I will just leave with this abbreviated version otherwise I would be typing for hours and by then my internet service would drop me before I could complete it.

The point I want to make is that the Lawless One is not the same individual in Revelation. He is a separate individual and the son of perdition. He will persecute gods church. The church will be tested and purified as gold is through fire and the dross will be eliminated. Christ will come on the last day. His angels will accompany him as rain pouring down on earth. They will gather the wicked first while the faithful that have survived will witness the annihilation.

"Very soon there will be no wicked man, look where he was, he's not there." Psalm 37:10

Yeshua's people are the last to be gathered because,

"...God wishing to show his wrath and make known his power, has endured with much patience the vessels of wrath made for destruction? This was to make known the riches of his glory to the vessels of mercy" Rom 9:22

"Human beings never welcome the news that someting they have long cherished is untrue: they almost always reply to that news by reviling its promugator." H. L. Mencken

[gdemoss]

The key word in the whole of the passage is the word 'revealed'. One cannot simply study and come to an understanding through their flesh and blood when it comes to discerning much of what the bible give us but must be 'revealed' as true unto us by the Spirit of the Living God who indwells those who are his temple. It must be understood that one can have the Holy Spirit but not be given the revelation too.

If it is the time that he, the lawless one, should reign, then God through the Holy Spirit will 'reveal' him unto those whom he wills. Those who have him revealed unto him can share who he is all they want but if God doesn't reveal it unto them as true then they cannot know it. There is a reason God is perfectly sovereign. He has all knowledge and power and gives it to whom he wills to bring all things into the counsel of his own will.

The fear of God is the beginning of knowledge. Departing from evil is understanding.

Who is the lawless one? Ask our Father to reveal him to you if it be his time.

Gary

[silviawang]

one thing is certain:GOD's will is to show he is not only the GOD of Israel，Europe，America...but also is the all-in control GOD of India,china

[other one]

one thing is certain:GOD's will is to show he is not only the GOD of Israel，Europe，America...but also is the all-in control GOD of India,china

quoted to make that thing big enough to read..... LoL why do you guys do that to my poor old eyes.

[silviawang]

one thing is certain:GOD's will is to show he is not only the GOD of Israel，Europe，America...but also is the all-in control GOD of India,china

quoted to make that thing big enough to read..... LoL why do you guys do that to my poor old eyes.

sorry