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After our Lord and Saviour completed the work of redemption and the apostles fell asleep, the seed went into the ground until the fullness of time when it started to come up again through events like:

Martin Luther: Salvation by Grace

John Wesley: Sanctification

1906 Azusa Street: Restoration of the Gifts

Where do we go from here or are we rapture ready?


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I am Rapture Ready. :mgcheerful:


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Sorry 2404, if I understand (which I may not) I have to disagree. The seed is the word and it continued to be planted and bore fruit before, throughout, the reformers time. The early church fathers wrote about all these matters, except the restoration of gifts which were still extant, which they witness too.

If I misunderstood I apologize, and yes I agree we should always be prepared, but since the "man of sin" has not yet been revealed the Rapture will not be NOW (according to the word)!But it could be as soon as the Lord reveals this person. However, IMO the Rapture does not happen until after the reign of the Anti-Christ because the word says that at His coming (the parousia) is when the dead are raised and the elect are gathered unto Him (the rapture) and this is the time according to Paul when this wicked one is destroyed (by the brightness of His parousia or coming).

So since the rapture of the church occurs when the Anti-Christ is destroyed the church must be here while he is alive and doing his ungodly thing. Just my $.02...but if you need the scriptures I am afraid there are so many I may have to split it into two posts...the Lord be with you...

Rapture ready? Indeed as a matter of fact I can hardly wait. Maranatha...Come quickly Lord...

In His name...

Brother Paul

I respectfully disagree.I think the Rapture will happen before the reign of the Antichrist.


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We already have 172 threads on the rapture already, so we really don't need another. If this thread is to discuss what some may see needs done before He returns, that is fine, but let's not get into another debate on the when this will happen ...


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We already have 172 threads on the rapture already, so we really don't need another. If this thread is to discuss what some may see needs done before He returns, that is fine, but let's not get into another debate on the when this will happen ...

172 active threads??


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We already have 172 threads on the rapture already, so we really don't need another. If this thread is to discuss what some may see needs done before He returns, that is fine, but let's not get into another debate on the when this will happen ...

172 active threads??

I went back and counted and you are right, some were deleted and some were locked. There are only 139 active threads in this site that can be replied to.


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We already have 172 threads on the rapture already, so we really don't need another. If this thread is to discuss what some may see needs done before He returns, that is fine, but let's not get into another debate on the when this will happen ...

I respect your point.

Let me conclude with one response to bro. Paul, and not in regard to a time frame.


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Sorry 2404, if I understand (which I may not) I have to disagree. The seed is the word and it continued to be planted and bore fruit before, throughout, the reformers time. The early church fathers wrote about all these matters, except the restoration of gifts which were still extant, which they witness too.

If I misunderstood I apologize, and yes I agree we should always be prepared, but since the "man of sin" has not yet been revealed the Rapture will not be NOW (according to the word)!But it could be as soon as the Lord reveals this person. However, IMO the Rapture does not happen until after the reign of the Anti-Christ because the word says that at His coming (the parousia) is when the dead are raised and the elect are gathered unto Him (the rapture) and this is the time according to Paul when this wicked one is destroyed (by the brightness of His parousia or coming).

So since the rapture of the church occurs when the Anti-Christ is destroyed the church must be here while he is alive and doing his ungodly thing. Just my $.02...but if you need the scriptures I am afraid there are so many I may have to split it into two posts...the Lord be with you...

Rapture ready? Indeed as a matter of fact I can hardly wait. Maranatha...Come quickly Lord...

In His name...

Brother Paul

Hello bro Paul

And absolutely, God has had His saints throughout the ages and of course it is a individual affair, as the saying goes 'God does not have any grandchildren, only sons and daughters'.

But God's plan is not static.

There is usually much discussion about the manifestations and augmentation of evil but we can rest assured that God has everything under control.

I believe that if the prince of this world is trying to do something we can know that it is only 'his' copy/reaction to what God has already done.

Point being, what does that 'standard' look like?


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We already have 172 threads on the rapture already, so we really don't need another. If this thread is to discuss what some may see needs done before He returns, that is fine, but let's not get into another debate on the when this will happen ...

172 active threads??

I went back and counted and you are right, some were deleted and some were locked. There are only 139 active threads in this site that can be replied to.

it depends on when someone last posted to that thread, if to much time has gone by, its really only an open thread in name, I was strongly recomended to not post in old threads, as it is considered computer necromancy or somthing of the sort.

so there are probably much less on the rapture timing debate................since nobody ever changes their mind, and listens to the words of Jesus Himself, it will continue to be a beaten horse topic


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Do a search for yourself to see how many threads have the word Rapture in it. That is how I searched. If I searched for thread names and content, the count would be far greater.

The point is, as I stated above, we do not need another thread about pre, mid, prewarth, partial or post debate. A discussion on what still needs to happen is different.

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