Would you leave everything to follow Jesus?

[Fez]

 

Actually the test really is...... Would we give up everything to follow Him even if He did not call at our door in person....

 

That to me is the true test of faith.

 

Howe many have done so?

 

Hello Fez,

 

Does Jesus request every Christian to give up everything to follow Him and if so what does giving up everything look like ?

 

To me it means being perfect in his eyes. We are taught to strive for this. And I think it means giving up everything worldly, everything that stands in the way of the open heaven we live under. (which includes our thoughts, our deeds that are not Christ like and our wants, but excludes our needs)

What does take up your cross mean to you?

[Guest ninhao]

 

To me it means being perfect in his eyes. We are taught to strive for this. And I think it means giving up everything worldly, everything that stands in the way of the open heaven we live under. (which includes our thoughts, our deeds that are not Christ like and our wants, but excludes our needs)

 

 

Ok. I currently enjoy many things  that are above my needs. Is this wrong ?

 

What does take up your cross mean to you?

 

 

Taking up my Cross implies suffering for Christ. It means I must endure the hardships and trials which come because of the world hating Christ and therefor me. I must endure these hardships by exhibiting support for my Lord and walking into His ways.

[missmuffet]

Well a good indicator would be... what have you given up of your pleasure now in order to serve Him?

Of the things I used to do that I felt were inappropriate with my Walk with God 100%.I feel the sacrifice is well worth the benefits.

[missmuffet]

 

 

Actually the test really is...... Would we give up everything to follow Him even if He did not call at our door in person....

 

That to me is the true test of faith.

 

Howe many have done so?

 

Hello Fez,

 

Does Jesus request every Christian to give up everything to follow Him and if so what does giving up everything look like ?

 

To me it means being perfect in his eyes. We are taught to strive for this. And I think it means giving up everything worldly, everything that stands in the way of the open heaven we live under. (which includes our thoughts, our deeds that are not Christ like and our wants, but excludes our needs)

What does take up your cross mean to you?

 

We can never be perfect while we are on this earth and are human no matter how hard we try.

[missmuffet]

The Bible teaches us while we are in the flesh we will always struggle with a sin nature.

Romans 7:14-24

¹⁴ For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. ¹⁵ For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. ¹⁶ If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. ¹⁷ But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. ¹⁸ For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. ¹⁹ For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. ²⁰ Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

²¹ I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. ²² For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. ²³ But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. ²⁴ O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?

 

No one will be perfect until we reach heaven.

Paul prays that we would "Stand perfect and complete in all the will of God".In the verse the word perfect is translated as "full grown" not perfect.

True perfectionism will not come until the Rapture of the Church

1Thessalonians 4:17

¹⁷ Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

[enoob57]

 

Well a good indicator would be... what have you given up of your pleasure now in order to serve Him?

Of the things I used to do that I felt were inappropriate with my Walk with God 100%.I feel the sacrifice is well worth the benefits.

 

A Spiritual sense of value that exceeds all known parameters here... formed purely from hope shaped from His Word! 

I do not know the fullness now but I sure am excited to know it will be more than I can hope or dream... weeping seems

always the expressed reality of the magnitude of His Presence (Nearness).  Love, Steven

 

[LadyKay]

This is very interesting to think about. Times are different then what they were when Jesus was here on earth. To be honest I am not sure that in our modern society if it would be truly posable to give up everything and walk away from it all to follow Jesus. I am guessing that when you say "leave everything" you do mean "everything" Your house, your children. your wife, your family. Your job, and all the money you have to your name ect ect. Oh and your car too if you have one. It may have been easier to do these things back in the time of Jesus. The rules and laws of our society  have changed. Now days if say your a man, a husband , father. And you deiced to leave your wife and children to follow Jesus, you can and most likely would be sued for abandoning your wife and children. You would be hunted down and order to pay child support for the children you left behind. If you did not get a job and pay your child support, you will be thrown into prison. Since you have given up everything I guess this would leave you homeless. In some cities it is actually illegal to be homeless. Homeless people  are rounded up and tossed into city jails. For the crime of being homeless and asking for money from strangers on the street so they can buy a sandwich. Also, people who work and have homes and what not. Think of people who are not working and living off the kindness of others. ( Which I guess you would have to do since you would have no money for food and everyone has to eat.) Anyway they think of them as a drain on society and living off of the work that other people do. The Christians of the early church if I remeber what my Bible said, I beleve that they worked and had money. Since Paul instructed them on givening money to the church and caring for people in need. So it seems to me that they didn't give up everything. So how do you care for others if you have no means to care for yourself? Caring for others is one of the main teachings of Christ. Anyway I kind of went off on my own here and I'm sorry about that.

 

Has anyone know anyone who has actuly given up "Everything" to follow Jesus? If so what is it that this person does for Christ?

[Gandalf]

Some Christians "give up everything" and band together in communities where there is no personal ownership of things (cars, houses, furniture, etc.), and where they pool all of their income.

[missmuffet]

Some Christians "give up everything" and band together in communities where there is no personal ownership of things (cars, houses, furniture, etc.), and where they pool all of their income.

That sounds like the Amish

[Gandalf]

Some Christians "give up everything" and band together in communities where there is no personal ownership of things (cars, houses, furniture, etc.), and where they pool all of their income.

That sounds like the Amish

There are many modern Christian communities around the world.