Guest man Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 will the little things keep us out of heaven? some things on this list may not be little to you but it will be to others examples: hair coloring wearing gold having a beer or two at home or friends house go into bar for a beer or two cuss word slip cuss often gamble lie,sometime believe in Jesus, confused about whats in the bible divorce shaved head cause you like it really short hair on a woman long hair on a man women preachers and the big one hairspray just to name a few I am curious what you think The Lord searches the heart. His attention is not so much on what we do, but our motives for doing it. Can little things keep one out of the Kingdom? Yes, I think they can. But that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 if having an occasional beer, sends me to hell I guess Im screwed then huh....its a good thing the Bible says in ephesians 2:8-9 for by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. yes i too have a beer sometimes, you seem to be the only one not offended by the list most of which IS in the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,718 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,536 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it has nothing to do with being offended, and is something that others in this post that has pointed out-first off, none of the things listed as a sin-having an occasional beer isn't-getting drunk, however, is. I was just pointing out-like cobalt just said-doing or not doing these things to get to heaven, in fact, if saying any one of these things or anything else, will keep you out is legalism-and salvation by works, and thats not Biblical-were saved by grace, not of works. Sure, there are things we need to stop doing once we become christians-not because we have to, but because we want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 will the little things keep us out of heaven? some things on this list may not be little to you but it will be to others examples: hair coloring wearing gold having a beer or two at home or friends house go into bar for a beer or two cuss word slip cuss often gamble lie,sometime believe in Jesus, confused about whats in the bible divorce shaved head cause you like it really short hair on a woman long hair on a man women preachers and the big one hairspray just to name a few I am curious what you think That's all legalism. Clothes line preaching, and not scriptural at all. Not one of those things, as delineated in the Bible, is a sin. I purposely put things on the list that i had hoped would be pulled out and discussed others left by the wayside. I am not clothes line preaching one thing on the list is not in the bible hair spray. all the others are in there. I did add an adjective to the last on as a joke akin to blonde jokes. other than Patriot everyone has made it clear they do not care to discuss these little things. although some of these things came from other threads that the same people are now or have discussed are all up in arms about. Is it that those things were preserved just so we could say they don't matter? why were the disciples writing this down if in fact it means nothing. If I were a person who has not read the bible, which im not one of those, and i read this thread i would get the impression I can believe in Jesus as my savior and still lie and gamble to any and all extent i want and be sealed. I am aware these are not sins however we are told not to do certain things, like lie, gamble maybe i should just read on this site and not type. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 will the little things keep us out of heaven? some things on this list may not be little to you but it will be to others examples: hair coloring wearing gold having a beer or two at home or friends house go into bar for a beer or two cuss word slip cuss often gamble lie,sometime believe in Jesus, confused about whats in the bible divorce shaved head cause you like it really short hair on a woman long hair on a man women preachers and the big one hairspray just to name a few I am curious what you think The Lord searches the heart. His attention is not so much on what we do, but our motives for doing it. Can little things keep one out of the Kingdom? Yes, I think they can. But that's just my opinion. there are only a couple things I listed that are bad. I too think a couple little things can harm a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2013 Feel free to show me the verse that says that using hairspray keeps someone out of heaven. As you know hairspray is not in the bible, it could be considered part of the concept of outward adornment which is addressed in the bible. 1 Peter 3:3 Please, remember I did not accused anyone of anything I have made a list of things and ask a question about the items on the list. That verse says: Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; Which if I took it as literal as you do, would mean I should not wear clothes either. What I believe that verse to be saying is that one should be modest in attire, not wearing large amounts of wealth (gold), not dressed in expensive flashy or racy clothing. It does not say one cant have a nice hairstyle or a wedding band of gold, or even a nice but low key pair of earrings. 1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2013 will the little things keep us out of heaven? some things on this list may not be little to you but it will be to others examples: hair coloring wearing gold having a beer or two at home or friends house go into bar for a beer or two cuss word slip cuss often gamble lie,sometime believe in Jesus, confused about whats in the bible divorce shaved head cause you like it really short hair on a woman long hair on a man women preachers and the big one hairspray just to name a few I am curious what you think That's all legalism. Clothes line preaching, and not scriptural at all. Not one of those things, as delineated in the Bible, is a sin. I purposely put things on the list that i had hoped would be pulled out and discussed others left by the wayside. I am not clothes line preaching one thing on the list is not in the bible hair spray. all the others are in there. Then by all means, please, post where in the bible each thing is on your list. Edify us all by showing us where exactly each one as you have them listed is in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted July 25, 2013 When one comes to understand why there is no law that can be written to make men righteous, then will they also understand why Jesus said that we ought not judge by outward appearance but to judge righteous judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippie333 Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 15 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,236 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 673 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/24/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/18/1970 Share Posted July 25, 2013 1Sa 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted July 25, 2013 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2013 will the little things keep us out of heaven? some things on this list may not be little to you but it will be to others examples: hair coloring wearing gold having a beer or two at home or friends house go into bar for a beer or two cuss word slip cuss often gamble lie,sometime believe in Jesus, confused about whats in the bible divorce shaved head cause you like it really short hair on a woman long hair on a man women preachers and the big one hairspray just to name a few I am curious what you think I'm with Jade here, I'd like to see a verse by verse compendium of these so we can start to hash them out in context. Also, remember, that sanctification is a process, it's done by God, and it's done over time, and we're all at all different parts of our walk. 2Co 3:16 But when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. 2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 2Co 3:18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit. (ESV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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