other moral values

[other one]

Kuada:  Well, my family was in a lower middle class income bracket, and OUR taxes went down!  We also finally had the government send back $300 of the money they annually steal from us (taxes)....THAT WAS A FIRST!

I'm sorry you didn't bother to do the rudimentary math for yourself, and instead simply chose to just accept the Marxist lies as gospel truth, but I'm sure if you apply yourself, you will be able to do the addition and subtraction on your own, which will clearly prove otherwise!

I don't think you will actually bother doing it, but I'm sure you could.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well, we got our money back too, and our taxes went down too, but we just got the OK to borrow another 800 billion or so dollars from the federal reserve to make ends meet, and your great great great gradnchildren most likely won't be able to pay it all back...

I agree, don't pay too close attention to the lies coming from polititions these days. Some are Marxist, others..... well who knows where they come from.

[Leonard]

Really biting my tongue here..................

Remember, I was raised in a Communist household, and know EXACTLY what they have planned for America since the 1940's. You guys on the Left ARE DOING IT!!!! Letter for letter, with every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed.

Read Lenin's 'Revolutionary Catechisms,' you will see yourselves mentioned over and over....

[other one]

I really love the way you guys treat first posters........

Kuada, welcome to WorthyBoards, for what it is worth not everyone here is brash and uncaring as some of these first responders seem to be.

They question your christanity and write like heathens.

It is not Kuada that should be ashamed of themselves for calling themselves christians.

[nebula]

I live in Salem, Oregon, the Capitol of one of the most liberal states in the Union, yet locally we have several organizations which actively support the poor, the hungry and the desolute. I have given to our local Union Gospel Mission for years, as do many others. It provides a shelter, clothes and food for the homeless and helps them to get "back on track" of their lives. They often get their first dose of Christianity and the Gospel right there. Portland also has a UGM.

But not only this, the churches in the area each or in combination with one another provide food and clothing and monetary support for the hungry, poor, orphan, widow and otherwise desolute. This nation is one of the biggest "givers" in the world and I'm sure it is because God has sought to prosper us for that purpose. So if you don't SEE such local "giving" in your area, you may even want to "start one up".

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

P.S. Jesus makes the statement: "The poor you shall have with you always."

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That's great!

My point in posting this quote, though, which I hope came through, is that if we did more for the needy, the government wouldn't need to and could focus more on running the country.

I'd rather see One Accord and Kuada doing more to provoke us to do the work ourselves and getting our churches more active in doing the work ourselves rather than provoking us to hate the president.

[other one]

Really biting my tongue here..................      

Remember, I was raised in a Communist household, and know EXACTLY what they have planned for America since the 1940's.  You guys on the Left ARE DOING IT!!!!  Letter for letter, with every "i" dotted and every "t" crossed.

Read Lenin's 'Revolutionary Catechisms,' you will see yourselves mentioned over and over....

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Leonard, open your eyes, it is not just the left that is doing it, it is the whole bunch doing it while they have us agruing about who is doing it.

You may have grown up in a communist country, and that is fine. I have close people who grew up around Nazi Germany and there is a whole different bunch to watch over.

Open your eyes people..... nothing.... nothing is what it seems.......

[other one]

Besides that, I don't care if you grew up in the back alley's of lower manhatten, no one should treat any first poster with anything but patients and love on this board...... period.

[Guest Thomas I believe]

I recall Jesus saying these 8 words. They are very important ! Love one another as I have loved You ! John 13:34. I am sensing a lot of ill feelings in this post. They are quite clear to see. I feel everyone has a right to there opinion. Dialogue here is for that purpose to sort things out correctly according to Gods word. I sense hostility towards a person that has made there first post. I welcome Kuada to. To Judge anyone and say there not christian from one post. OH MY !!!

I feel sad right now because some here are portraying negetivity in all the sense of that words meaning. Thats my take and those 8 words in John that I posted at top of this reply. Maybe we should exercise there meaning in this situation. Welcome Kuada I hope you come back to post again and I would'nt blame you if ya didnt . I am not sure if I would after all that happened here. Are'nt we supposed to disipcle each other ? Are'nt we suppose to be reflections of Jesus in all we say and do ?

[Guest Thomas I believe]

Oh one more thing, the outright attack on Kuada may leave wounds that won't go away. Did anyone consider how you would feel if this had happened to you. Maybe he/she came here looking for guidance, for strength. Shame on us for hurting this man/woman, shame on us who would cast the first stone. Maybe he/she is only a christian of a short time. Maybe a christian of many years. Wounding someones spirit no matter the calibur of christian/person they are, is very incorrect. I am deeply saddened by this.

[nebula]

You're right.

Jesus did say when someone slaps us on the right cheek, we should turn to him the other also.

I am guessing a lot of people are feeling weary by this though. Weariness brings testiness.

I know my first reaction was, "Oh no, not again!"

And why is it that the people posting protests against Bush don't post much about anything else? (OK, Other One has been the exception, but everyone else . . . ).

It is very weary.

No, beating each other up over politics and claiming "I'm better than you" is not the answer - but this must come from both sides.

I'm beginning to wonder if Christians should just stay away from politics so as not to support any immorality and let the non-Christains run the country . . .

OK, sorry - I don't believe that.

It is just getting so frustrating and weary . . . .

[Guest shiloh357]

I feel everyone has a right to there opinion.Dialogue here is for that purpose to sort things out correctly according to Gods word. 

Well you are getting dialogue.

To Judge anyone and say there not christian from one post. OH MY !!!

Thomas, do you care to show where one person said that Kuada is not a Christian? And don't try to say it was inferred, because it wasn't.

Oh one more thing, the outright attack on Kuada may leave wounds that won't go away.

I don't see an attack Kuada, but people are tired of all the Bush bashing, and blaming Bush and America for everyone elses problems.

Kuada started a controversial thread, and neither you nor Kuada have the right to complain if it breeds some controversy.