A Few Weird Questions

[coheir]

 

the body will be some form of energy or light or both; not flesh

 

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Beloved, A Thought

 

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Matthew 27:52-53

 

Or Two

 

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also,

because he is the Son of man.

Marvel not at this:

for the hour is coming,

in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

 

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29

 

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And Thank You For Sharing Your Understandings

And Thoughts With Your Brothers

And Sisters

 

Love, Joe

 

1 corin 15

51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

john 3:6

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

this where I get my thoughts

 

the matt verse i think happened when Jesus arose after He was crucified. I dont see how to connect that verse to rapture or end times gathering.

the john 5 makes me think everyone will be before him in flesh but as soon as the determination is made you go to heaven or hell but not in the

human body.

there is probably something you see that i do not see in the verses you provide..

[Guest]

 

 

the body will be some form of energy or light or both; not flesh

 

~

 

Beloved, A Thought

 

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Matthew 27:52-53

 

Or Two

 

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also,

because he is the Son of man.

Marvel not at this:

for the hour is coming,

in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

 

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; 

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29

 

~

 

And Thank You For Sharing Your Understandings

And Thoughts With Your Brothers

And Sisters

 

Love, Joe

 

 

1 Corinthians 15:51-52  Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

 

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

this where I get my thoughts

 

The Matthew verse i think happened when Jesus arose after He was crucified. I dont see how to connect that verse to rapture or end times gathering. the John 5 makes me think everyone will be before him in flesh but as soon as the determination is made you go to heaven or hell but not in the human body. there is probably something you see that i do not see in the verses you provide..

 

~

 

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:3-7

 

John 3:6 Deals With To Work Of The Holy Spirit In The New Birth Of The Born-Again Child Of God

 

Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 Peter 1:22-23

 

And In The Matthew Verses

 

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Matthew 27:52-53

 

I See A Foretaste Of The Physical Bodily Resurrection To Come 

 

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:22-26

 

Of All Saints And Sinners Alike

 

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29

 

That Is What I See

 

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Beloved, A Question

 

Do You Believe Jesus Physically Arose From The Grave?

 

And Did Jesus Physically Ascend Up To His Father's Throne In The Heavens?

 

And Will Jesus Physically Decent Back Down To Jerusalem Town?

[coheir]

 

 

 

the body will be some form of energy or light or both; not flesh

 

~

 

Beloved, A Thought

 

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Matthew 27:52-53

 

Or Two

 

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also,

because he is the Son of man.

Marvel not at this:

for the hour is coming,

in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

 

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;

and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29

 

~

 

And Thank You For Sharing Your Understandings

And Thoughts With Your Brothers

And Sisters

 

Love, Joe

 

 

1 Corinthians 15:51-52  Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

 

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

this where I get my thoughts

 

The Matthew verse i think happened when Jesus arose after He was crucified. I dont see how to connect that verse to rapture or end times gathering. the John 5 makes me think everyone will be before him in flesh but as soon as the determination is made you go to heaven or hell but not in the human body. there is probably something you see that i do not see in the verses you provide..

 

~

 

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:3-7

 

John 3:6 Deals With To Work Of The Holy Spirit In The New Birth Of The Born-Again Child Of God

 

Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1 Peter 1:22-23

 

And In The Matthew Verses

 

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Matthew 27:52-53

 

I See A Foretaste Of The Physical Bodily Resurrection 

 

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

 

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:22-26

 

Of All Sinners And Saints Alike

 

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:26-29

 

That Is What I See

 

~

 

Beloved, A Question

 

Do You Believe Jesus Physically Arose From The Grave

And Physically Assented To His Father's Throne In The Heavens

And Will Physically Decent Back Down To Jerusalem Town?

 

yes i do

[gdemoss]

The limitations of the human mind to calculate answers and conclude possibilities of the unknown is an aid in helping us to understand our limitations.  We have difficulty perceiving or understanding that which we do not experience in this temporal realm.

 

Dirt is dirt because God says it is dirt.  And so goes every single aspect of creation.  This is an important consideration when seeking to understand the limitless possibilities of eternity.  

 

A question asks "Will we have a need to use the bathroom?".  Our minds are then trained to seek in scripture for glimpses of the possibilities of our future reality based upon things stated in it.  The problem is that we would be basing our reality on the idea that nothing will change.  We may see that Jesus ate with the disciples after his resurrection but we can only assume how his glorified body processed the food or if it even processed it at all.  We assume byproduct or waste.  

 

These things are well above my understanding or ability to grasp at this time.  I do know that there was a time when thorns and thistle were not an issue nor did man have to eat of the dust of the earth by the sweat of his brow.  So what can I truly say about that which is to come?

 

Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

 

God simply spoke and all that we see became.  With a word he can change it still into whatever is possible within the mind of God.  

[Guest]

Beloved, A Question

 

Do You Believe Jesus Physically Arose From The Grave

And Physically Assented To His Father's Throne In The Heavens

And Will Physically Decent Back Down To Jerusalem Town?

 

yes i do

 

[coheir]

 

Beloved, A Question

 

Do You Believe Jesus Physically Arose From The Grave

And Physically Assented To His Father's Throne In The Heavens

And Will Physically Decent Back Down To Jerusalem Town?

 

yes i do

 

 

so i do believe Jesus done this,  i was under the impression Jesus took this physical form because he was dealing with the disciples at that time in earth history for them to really understand his message as they did have difficulty grasping his message at times; he came to them in his physical body so they could see and feel him and know for sure there is life after death of the human body.

It seems you are saying we will have human bodies even though you have not actually said we will, hope this sentence makes since.

the verses i quoted give the impression we wont be human, can you address them for me.

[Willa]

Coheir,, it doesn't seem like heaven without pets, but I guess I won't mind if Jesus is there. But our pastor loves to ride his horse and is quick to remind us that horses will be in heaven since Jesus and His saints return on horses for warfare. And we will have white robes, washed in His blood, which seems a little contradictory but I am sure it means purity.

The thought of being able to see Jesus as He is, and to see God our Daddy, just blows my mind. It seems like science fiction so beyond my comprehension, to see the actual Creator of the universe. I wonder if we will be able to explore the universe and go where no man has gone before. I have often wondered if heaven is another dimension that we are not aware of. It all seems so surreal and exciting.

[coheir]

Coheir,, it doesn't seem like heaven without pets, but I guess I won't mind if Jesus is there. But our pastor loves to ride his horse and is quick to remind us that horses will be in heaven since Jesus and His saints return on horses for warfare. And we will have white robes, washed in His blood, which seems a little contradictory but I am sure it means purity.

The thought of being able to see Jesus as He is, and to see God our Daddy, just blows my mind. It seems like science fiction so beyond my comprehension, to see the actual Creator of the universe. I wonder if we will be able to explore the universe and go where no man has gone before. I have often wondered if heaven is another dimension that we are not aware of. It all seems so surreal and exciting.

I know what you mean I had one dog growing up from 3 til about 13 and I would love to have him back. Ecc 3: 19-22 makes me think  no earthly animals go to heaven. i could be wrong and will admit being wrong if someone shows I misunderstand. Isa 65:17 make me think God has a way; if we get to heaven; that we shall not remember life on earth

whether that is a favorite pet or a sibling or friend that did not make it. If we make to heaven and all we can think about is our pet or friend or sibling that did not make it how great would heaven be?

I sometime just slowly ride down the rode and look at all the different creations right before our eyes the diversity is huge and unfathomable, and know and believe this is no where as great as heaven will be, makes you pull over and say a prayer.

i to hope we can explore other areas God has created besides what we see from earth.

[missmuffet]

It is like the song by Mercy Me "I Can Only Imagine".We are thinking in our human minds.God is way beyond that.We can not even comprehend what our heavenly glorified bodies will be like.I have heard from someone that animals do have a soul but were not capable of a resurrection but that could be wrong.It sure would be like Jesus to have our pets waiting for us.One of my favorite thoughts of heaven is riding a white horse down to Earth with Jesus.What a ride that will be.

 

coheir* that makes sense that we would not have our sexual organs but those organs are used for other things besides sex.Our bodies might consist of some sort of energy but those on Earth will be about to see us.We might possibly govern the New Millenium with Christ.We will be given jobs.Those jobs will be perfect for us and we will love them.We will not be lounging around on clouds all day LOL

[NeedYouLord]

yea, i think it will be just spirits like angels in heaven, for we are all one in Jesus so no gender preference. No memories either of worldly things.

On earth we have fleshy bodies but in heaven very complete opposite and hard for us to imagine that part of it. No more pains, hurts or sufferings. It will be awesome. A home in heaven. Even all the unanswered prayers that we didnt receive here in the world, we will receive in heaven.

 

I agree It Will Be Awesome Even If I Don't Know All of God's Word Yet-Because I sure don't!!!

 

Matthew 22:29-30 (New King James Version)

Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowng the Scriptures nor the power of God. (He was talking to the Sadducees who say there is no resurrection) For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.