Promise keepers

[IreneM]

Promise keepers has divided the church for some time.

What do you think of them.....???

In Christ

IreneM

[Guest Thomas I believe]

Promise keepers has divided the church for some time.

What do you think of them.....???

In Christ

IreneM

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I really hate to say this but I went to a promise keepers rally in Minneapolis a few years ago and although it may be good for some it surely did'nt impress me very much. I believe some men met the Lord but unfortanetly there is'nt much follow up on these new christians. I felt an uneasiness there among many and even though the Holy Spirit touched some I didnt feel it was a true crusade. Do I need to go farther ? I would'nt go to another one and I surely would'nt go to a Benny Hinn crusade...

[ray]

Promise keepers has divided the church for some time.

What do you think of them.....???

In Christ

IreneM

Irene I do not understand; what do you mean Promise Keepers has divided the church, how? I see it as breaking down the walls of denomantions and bringing us all together as one church.

Thomas I Believe said......

I really hate to say this but I went to a promise keepers rally in Minneapolis a few years ago and although it may be good for some it surely did'nt impress me very much. I believe some men met the Lord but unfortanetly there is'nt much follow up on these new christians. I felt an uneasiness there among many and even though the Holy Spirit touched some I didnt feel it was a true crusade. Do I need to go farther ? I would'nt go to another one and I surely would'nt go to a Benny Hinn crusade...

Well sure Thomas if don't like large crowds of 10,000 plus men coming together or any other size large crowds of people I can see how it would be uncomfortable for you. My guess is you probably don't enjoy church retreats either. But that is just an AssUmption. IF you didn't like it may I ask why you went Thomas? It is true some people like and others do not. I guess I was one of the luckier ones.

I have had the privledege and honor of going to 2 Promise keepers. In both occasions my life was spirtually altered for the better. Like most events it is better if you go with a group of friends than by yourself. I'm not sure what your case was Thomas but it is hard for me if you went with a group a friends that you had a bad experince. This last time I was able to take my dad to prmosie keepers with me and that was the best and most awesome experince to have a spirtual weekend with my father. Now did I agree with everything 100% at the conference no. However, for the majority of what they did and as I searched what they said with Bible and a variety of Bible I can basically say that I'm a promise keeper.

As far as follow up after the conference there is a lot AssUming you fill out there cards and turn them in at the end of the conference. Even if you do not you can go there web site for a lot of follow up material to the conference, but you have to be willing to spend a little bit of money. This PK I went to this past year I got the book that went a long with the conferece and purchased the music ahead of time so I would know and be prepared. Also, some churches in my area have set men Bible studies based on promise keepers materials. However it is not foreveryone just like exercise and fourth helpings of thanksgiving dinner is not for everyone.

Personally I would not got to a Benny Hinn conference either but I would go to another PK event in heart beat. Well, my goal is be a volunteeer at one of the women of Faith events so I can find me a good spirtually led women to marry me some day. hehehehehehehehe!

[Work in Progress]

I, too, have heard that there isn't much follow-up on the new believers, but don't know how true that is.

Everything else I have heard sounds like a great organization. Anything that encourages men to be faithful to Christ and their families is okay with me.

[Fr Chuck]

The need to involve the local pastors more ( but then most local pastors for some reason don't want to help)

But they bring alot of men to a much closer relationship with God.

The really sad thing is that there is a need for them. Why is our local churches not having thier own local rallies to draw men into church and a relationship with Christ.

What they show is the lack of the local church in doing its job.

[Nicks Girl]

Yeah... what does Benny Hinn have to do with Promise keepers? lol

I would think the local churches would be more responsible for following up after new believers. And that they would get into a church. Also, like ray said, they can fill out slips to be contacted with, or go to the website. My husband enjoys PK much and thinks they are right on with most of their teaching, and encouragment to men.

Also, I too would like to know how this "divides" the church??

[Guest Thomas I believe]

Promise keepers has divided the church for some time.

What do you think of them.....???

In Christ

IreneM

Irene I do not understand; what do you mean Promise Keepers has divided the church, how? I see it as breaking down the walls of denomantions and bringing us all together as one church.

Thomas I Believe said......

I really hate to say this but I went to a promise keepers rally in Minneapolis a few years ago and although it may be good for some it surely did'nt impress me very much. I believe some men met the Lord but unfortanetly there is'nt much follow up on these new christians. I felt an uneasiness there among many and even though the Holy Spirit touched some I didnt feel it was a true crusade. Do I need to go farther ? I would'nt go to another one and I surely would'nt go to a Benny Hinn crusade...

Well sure Thomas if don't like large crowds of 10,000 plus men coming together or any other size large crowds of people I can see how it would be uncomfortable for you. My guess is you probably don't enjoy church retreats either. But that is just an AssUmption. IF you didn't like it may I ask why you went Thomas? It is true some people like and others do not. I guess I was one of the luckier ones.

I have had the privledege and honor of going to 2 Promise keepers. In both occasions my life was spirtually altered for the better. Like most events it is better if you go with a group of friends than by yourself. I'm not sure what your case was Thomas but it is hard for me if you went with a group a friends that you had a bad experince. This last time I was able to take my dad to prmosie keepers with me and that was the best and most awesome experince to have a spirtual weekend with my father. Now did I agree with everything 100% at the conference no. However, for the majority of what they did and as I searched what they said with Bible and a variety of Bible I can basically say that I'm a promise keeper.

As far as follow up after the conference there is a lot AssUming you fill out there cards and turn them in at the end of the conference. Even if you do not you can go there web site for a lot of follow up material to the conference, but you have to be willing to spend a little bit of money. This PK I went to this past year I got the book that went a long with the conferece and purchased the music ahead of time so I would know and be prepared. Also, some churches in my area have set men Bible studies based on promise keepers materials. However it is not foreveryone just like exercise and fourth helpings of thanksgiving dinner is not for everyone.

Personally I would not got to a Benny Hinn conference either but I would go to another PK event in heart beat. Well, my goal is be a volunteeer at one of the women of Faith events so I can find me a good spirtually led women to marry me some day. hehehehehehehehe!

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I just sited my opinion on this matter . The one that I was at i saw men walking out which i am sure is true with all retreats and crusades. I have been to a few revivals and I always get something out of it. I would go to a retreat of 100,000 if I had the chance, so crowds don't bother me. I have always had an open mind and I am not saying promise keepers is bad for everyone, I just feel more care should be taken to those who came there. I saw many a man leave there in tears that maybe needed a hug maybe needed some guidance and i saw no one try to intervene. I was asked to go there with a friend so I did. Just because I did'nt care for it, does that make me a bad person? I didnt say it was all bad did I ? I like retreats though thats for certain.. 24 years ago I met Jesus at one

[Nicks Girl]

Nope, you didn't say it was all bad, and because you didn't care for it doesn't make you a bad person... no one said it did though.

[seraph]

I'm not sure what PK's follow up-is or is not... I personally don't know any men who have been saved there and I'm not a man so I've never been. For the men that do come to Christ there, PK should encourage them to find a church and contact them after the fact and see if they are making attempts to grow in their faith (I would imagine they do, but idk).

But since PK isn't a "local church," isn't their purpose evangelism- bringing the Gospel- and not necessarily pastoring- discipling- those who receive the Gospel? So, if they encourage the new believers to get involved in church, then it is up to the believer to do so and the church to welcome them and disciple them.

Shouldn't there be unity in the faith with all the gifts working together as the Spirit distributed for the building up of the body of Christ? Evangelists should work with Pastors who work with the Exhorters who work with the Teachers, etc... rather than Administrators taking on the role of Missionaries, etc... and seeking a role God may not have called you and gifted you to do and thus become bad stewards with the combination of gifts the Spirit gave us. If PK's purpose is to evangelize, but not pastor (idk how a non-local organization can disciple), then I don't think they should pastor. Is Billy Graham expected to pastor those he evangelizes to? Just a thought

"And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,

for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;"

"from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." -Ephesians 4:11-12,16

[Guest Thomas I believe]

I'm not sure what PK's follow up-is or is not... I personally don't know any men who have been saved there and I'm not a man so I've never been.   For the men that do come to Christ there, PK should encourage them to find a church and contact them after the fact and see if they are making attempts to grow in their faith (I would imagine they do, but idk).

But since PK isn't a "local church," isn't their purpose evangelism- bringing the Gospel- and not necessarily pastoring- discipling- those who receive the Gospel? So, if they encourage the new believers to get involved in church, then it is up to the believer to do so and the church to welcome them and disciple them.

Shouldn't there be unity in the faith with all the gifts working together as the Spirit distributed for the building up of the body of Christ? Evangelists should work with Pastors who work with the Exhorters who work with the Teachers, etc... rather than Administrators taking on the role of Missionaries, etc... and seeking a role God may not have called you and gifted you to do and thus become bad stewards with the combination of gifts the Spirit gave us. If PK's purpose is to evangelize, but not pastor (idk how a non-local organization can disciple), then I don't think they should pastor. Is Billy Graham expected to pastor those he evangelizes to?  Just a thought

"And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,

for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;"

"from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." -Ephesians 4:11-12,16

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Right On Seraph !!!!