God's View Of Homosexuality In The Bible

[OakWood]

In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 the word often translated “homosexual” is literally the word for effeminate. It comes from the Greek word “malakos” and referred to a boy (a young male) that is kept for homosexual relations with an adult male (such as the beardless one’s of Islam who are taken as slaves, dressed as girls, made to dance like sensual women, then purchased for anal rape…this is acceptable in many Muslim cultures, especially Afghanistan). This was a commonly accepted cultural norm in pagan Greece. Secondarily it refers to any male who willingly submits his body to “unnatural” lewdness (for Sodomizing) such as a male prostitute (also an accepted cultural norm in many pagan cultures).

 

In the Old Testament, “Sodomy” is the sin (engaging in anal intercourse and other forms of unnatural lewdness). When we explore all the passages about sodomy and sodomites (see Judges 19 for example) we find that sodomites are not necessarily homosexuals, but just really carnal beastly hedonists. They do not care where or how they get there sexual pleasure just as long as they get it and if their victim will not give it they will take it brutally.

 

The sodomites of Sodom (for whom there city was named) were out about carousing in the middle of the night (adult men and young boys) probably drunk and on drugs and wanted to rape the angels. Lot, knowing these were angels, offers his daughters which they reject (having women was probably easy in their culture, but fresh man-flesh would be a treat to their abominable lecherous souls).

 

 

So first, sin is a transgression of the law of God (see 1 John 3:4) and in Leviticus 20:13 the law of God says, "'If a man lays with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” So in God’s perspective under the law, the penalty for one male sodomizing another is death (as is the payment due for any sin before grace came through Jesus Christ). There is no way around this conclusion, so once realized most sodomites today simply reject God and His word rather than conform.

 

I personally believe when Romans 1:26 says. “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones” this is just the same thing…they exchanged having vaginal sex with preferring anal sex, and maybe even beastiality, and so on. Please note that in this NIV translation above because of their opinion, they added the words “relations” and “ones” which are not in the ancient Greek texts. What it actually says in the Greek is they exchanged the natural use for the unnatural and that is all it says.

 

Next I would like to say that all sin is subject and causative of death. God’s laws if broken intentionally have consequences even under grace. Take a physical law for example, like gravity…if I intentionally hurl myself from a skyscraper unless someone shows up in time with a net I am a dead man. So it is with my sins. I sinning have in effect jumped to my death…but thanks be to God that He provided me with a net which caught me, made me see how foolish I was, feel repentant, and be saved…that net was Jesus and His finished word (the death, burial, and bodily resurrection).  So therefore I do not believe homosexuals are any worse sinners than heterosexual fornicators (which I was and many are right now, even among Christians) or drunkards and I also believe they have every right to come to Christ, hear His word, hopefully repent from their actions and be saved. I say “actions” because a repented thief could still be tempted (temptation os not a sin, even Jesus was tempted) but if he reminds himself “thou shalt not steal” and then does not, there is no sin there.

 

So I do not have any doubt that for whatever the cause some men and some women have been homosexually oriented since they were very young that the acting out of their impulses is sin. However, homosexuality is no worse or better than the pre-marriage fornication many of us are guilty of.

 

Just my $.02

 

Brother Paul

 

You may be right, and that is why I tend not to criticise homosexuality too much, but rather the spreading of it, or the preaching that homosexuality is just fine.

That's why I don't oppose homosexual activity, but oppose gay marriage, gay adoption and homosexual propaganda in schools, because these are ways of claiming that homosexuality is normal and natural when it isn't.

This is the difference between sin and iniquity. Iniquity is when you claim that a sin isn't a sin and it then affects society as a whole. Sin is one thing. Iniquity is something else!

[kwikphilly]

Beloved,

     Gods Word is very clear regarding homosexuality as is very clear about every carnal sin concerning unnatural acts,perversions,lusts,detestable acts and abominations.....and we as Christians have a responsibility to bring the Gospel to the sinner(somebody brought it to us while we were yet in sin)......I think it is very important to talk about"they Way out of a sinful life"rather than point out the sin one is living in....In my experience I have seen that most people whether homosexuals,fornicators,drunkards or what have you are already feeling guilty about their lifestyles and have enough sin condemnation to deal with without anyones help....I probably opened up a can of worms here(lol)but really that is my personal experience....Oh ,sure there are the ones that are just wicked and will try to justify their actions to the death ....but the ones God has lead me to(I suppose thats the key?)are already being convicted by the Lord

    Just like the woman at the well who encountered Jesus there,she knew all about her 5 marriages and that she was living in sin.....beautiful Lord Jesus was not condemning but offered her the Living Water ....He asked her if she was married,and she replied honestly,confessing her sin....she was so excited that this man knew everything about her and yet still loved her,she told her whole town,"Come & see this must be the Messiah!"

    I just pray that as we go into the world that we can follow Jesus example and try our best to demonstrate that although we hate the sin we do,indeed...love the sinner....God bless you all,I love you!                             

                                                                                                                                                  In Christ,Kwik

[RustyAngeL]

 

Most people caught up the opinions of the world don't want to face the truth about what God says about homosexuality, but here goes anyway. In the Old Testament God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of sexual sin like homosexuality. Even Jesus mentions Sodom. In addition, 1 Peter condemns homosexuality. Does that give us the right bash homosexuals? No, but it does give us a clear picture that homosexuals are not headed to heaven and need much prayer so they will repent and turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and break free from the bondage they are in.

Right on.   Unfortunately there are all too many liberal Christians who want to serve as enablers for gays instead of giving them the Gospel of Jesus Christ which can save their lives from destruction.

 

Amen... finally a Christian who is not afraid to speak the truth and make excuses.  God loves these people but hates the lifestyle.  We are to present the gospel and leaves the results with God.

[revolutionist90]

 

Most people caught up the opinions of the world don't want to face the truth about what God says about homosexuality, but here goes anyway. In the Old Testament God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of sexual sin like homosexuality. Even Jesus mentions Sodom. In addition, 1 Peter condemns homosexuality. Does that give us the right bash homosexuals? No, but it does give us a clear picture that homosexuals are not headed to heaven and need much prayer so they will repent and turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and break free from the bondage they are in.

 

What of a person like a man I know named Patrick. He is a homosexual by orientation. He saw his behavior as sin and came to Christ. He has been celibate for 8 years now...is Christ's death, burial, and resurrection sufficient to cover his sins? He is still a homosexual by preference and orientation (though I am sure God did not make him to be so). Is this the repentance you speak of?

 

Brother Paul

 

P.S. I do not believe one willful sin is MORE sinful than another willful sin, and I do believe all sinners can come to Christ. I know the Bible teaches this lifestyle to be sinful an thus IMO it is but sometimes when I see extremists like the Westboro Baptists out there automatically condemning them to hell rather than loving them into heaven I wonder which is worse.

 

 I know you directed the comment to someone else but I wanted to ask if your friend views himself as ex-gay or simple remains celibate and believes God made him homosexual. There was a discussion a little while back on celibacy for homosexuals and if that was a repentence.

[revolutionist90]

 

 

 

Most people caught up the opinions of the world don't want to face the truth about what God says about homosexuality, but here goes anyway. In the Old Testament God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of sexual sin like homosexuality. Even Jesus mentions Sodom. In addition, 1 Peter condemns homosexuality. Does that give us the right bash homosexuals? No, but it does give us a clear picture that homosexuals are not headed to heaven and need much prayer so they will repent and turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and break free from the bondage they are in.

 

What of a person like a man I know named Patrick. He is a homosexual by orientation. He saw his behavior as sin and came to Christ. He has been celibate for 8 years now...is Christ's death, burial, and resurrection sufficient to cover his sins? He is still a homosexual by preference and orientation (though I am sure God did not make him to be so). Is this the repentance you speak of?

 

Brother Paul

 

P.S. I do not believe one willful sin is MORE sinful than another willful sin, and I do believe all sinners can come to Christ. I know the Bible teaches this lifestyle to be sinful an thus IMO it is but sometimes when I see extremists like the Westboro Baptists out there automatically condemning them to hell rather than loving them into heaven I wonder which is worse.

 

 I know you directed the comment to someone else but I wanted to ask if your friend views himself as ex-gay or simple remains celibate and believes God made him homosexual. There was a discussion a little while back on celibacy for homosexuals and if that was a repentence.

 

 

He considers himself gay and does not remember ever feeling any way different. He became the music leader in his church (actually a Nazarene church) and still is to this day. It is clear to him that God considers all pre- and extra-marital sex to be sin and that God defines marriage as between a male and a female. I do not think being homosexually oriented is a sin beyond Christ anymore than being anything else, but practicing the lifestyle sexualy obviously is. A thief for example may still get the urge to steal and find themselves tempted now and again but if they do not steal any longer and work instead God is satisfied. What do you think? Is it really worse than the 1,000s of heterosexual Christians who are not married but have sex anyway? I don't think so. What do you think?

 

Brother Paul

 

I think I agree with you but I do get caught up in the wording. I see homosexual desires as a sexual perversion no more and no less than any other perversion such as bestiality, pedophilia (there are "psychologists" who do believe pedophiles are born that way). It is a perversion from good but so is adultery. I equally do not see it any more or less damaging than casual sex but at the same time I acknowledge that it is damaging to the person. The urges to be attracted to the same-sex I can see with being on the same level with the urges of infidelity in married couples. A person can be ex-gay the same as a person can become ex-adulterous or ex-causal sex I suppose. It is just another cross that some have to bear. 

In terms of the wording I try not to claim someone as a homosexual because then the sin becomes the identity. I equally don't see it as an orientation since it is a sin. Sexual orientation is blurry and can change. The word itself was invented by people who had no connection with God whatsoever and were at best amoral. So I guess if someone has homosexual urges, knows they are wrong, fights to not be conquered by such urges and prays for strength to continue to fight then that is repentance. I have read of some men who have been deep in homosexuality but changed their life around and even married heterosexually so it is not stagnant. 

It is just the jargon that is thrown around. I feel that calling someone a homosexual instead of stating that they have homosexual urges just identifies them with that one sin as if they cannot change. I think the whole gay agenda now where it is being introduced in schools and people are losing businesses and such makes it difficult to discern whether it is getting equal treatment. It is no longer something that someone deals with but is now something that is a person's identity, they are born with it and everyone must get used to it. I think if pedophiles, adulteresses and others were to try the same they would get equally scorned but the gay "movement" is the hot button right now. It is of now one of the few sins imo that has whole denominations claiming it is not a sin and "rewriting" the bible to confuse others to accept. It seems to be one of the few sins that people are really confused about. I don't think people are confused about extra-marital sex they just ignore it but homosexuality has whole fields dedicated to re-reading in hebrew, latin and greek what is means and in what context. I think that is why it may seem like people bully it more than others. 

So it is a sexual perversion to me no more no less, not an identity nor an orientation because the attraction is based in lust which is always perverted and it is thus a sin. In terms of the urges I guess it can be the same as a married man have urges to sleep with someone other than his wife but he must not indulge and he must know that they are wrong. I equally believe one should not even think that far and make-up an imaginary scenario on if something were to happen since that would simply be in lust. 

I do believe however that one day the urges do pass or become less frequent as the person grows in Christ though. 

[DeaneRenata]

Most people caught up the opinions of the world don't want to face the truth about what God says about homosexuality, but here goes anyway. In the Old Testament God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of sexual sin like homosexuality. Even Jesus mentions Sodom. In addition, 1 Peter condemns homosexuality. Does that give us the right bash homosexuals? No, but it does give us a clear picture that homosexuals are not headed to heaven and need much prayer so they will repent and turn to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and break free from the bondage they are in.

 

Where did you get your bible from? I got mine at a store called Treasure House, man those things are expensive.