Obesity

[appy]

An overweight person is not allowed to have pizza or snacks, or dine out once in a while? Only thin people?

You should not ever assume someone is stocking up for themselves.  It is very irritating to have someone assume that the products I’ve just purchased, whether from the store or restaurant, is all for me or for one meal. I buy in bulk, then put it in the freezer to use another day.  Doing so not only saves me money, but time also.  Less trips to the market. Less use of auto fuel. And I know that there are a lot of other folks that do the same.  

There are also people that supplement their income by catering or hosting birthdays, weddings etc. . . .in their home.  There are also multiple families living in one home, and they take turns on the shopping purchases.  Just because that individual happens to have a weight issue, does not automatically mean that person is helping themselves to those products.  Unless you, yourself are actually witnessing that person consuming large amounts daily.   You don’t know ! Making assumptions is just as bad as judging.

I personally know several people who are naturally thin, and put away more than 5 plates of food in one meal.  I’ve also seen them eating lots of junk food.  They can consume as much as they want all day and every day and never put on a pound.  No one assumes or says to them that they are a glutton when they are in a store buying their groceries or when eating out.

[missmuffet]

An overweight person is not allowed to have pizza or snacks, or dine out once in a while? Only thin people?

You should not ever assume someone is stocking up for themselves.  It is very irritating to have someone assume that the products I’ve just purchased, whether from the store or restaurant, is all for me or for one meal. I buy in bulk, then put it in the freezer to use another day.  Doing so not only saves me money, but time also.  Less trips to the market. Less use of auto fuel. And I know that there are a lot of other folks that do the same.  

There are also people that supplement their income by catering or hosting birthdays, weddings etc. . . .in their home.  There are also multiple families living in one home, and they take turns on the shopping purchases.  Just because that individual happens to have a weight issue, does not automatically mean that person is helping themselves to those products.  Unless you, yourself are actually witnessing that person consuming large amounts daily.   You don’t know ! Making assumptions is just as bad as judging.

I personally know several people who are naturally thin, and put away more than 5 plates of food in one meal.  I’ve also seen them eating lots of junk food.  They can consume as much as they want all day and every day and never put on a pound.  No one assumes or says to them that they are a glutton when they are in a store buying their groceries or when eating out.

I see your point.You are overweight so here are your carrots.You are skinny so here is your lasagna and garlic bread and cake for dessert.

[ayin jade]

 

Notice I said to consider the context of what I wrote. But since you asked again perhaps I should explain further. If an obese person (or overweight too) is buying said items such as sweets, icecream, "personalized pizza", stocking up on junk food they're not eating a well-balanced diet. Eating those things are not sin in and of themselves. Particularly when done in moderation (i.e. one scoop of icecream vs a whole half gallon in one sitting.) However, over-eating and stuffing one's face (gluttony) is a sin. Would you agree?

The issue with these items are they are high in calories yet low in nutritional value. Part of the issue is that many people aren't educated enough to know that eating a pizza (or burger, or hotdog, or corndog, etc.) every other meal is not good for you. The other issue is just because it doesn't taste good doesn't mean you shouldn't eat it (i.e. veggetables, fruits, salads, etc.).

Is this clearer?

God bless,

GE

 

 

To put it bluntly you are quite judgmental with that. Perhaps the person is stocking up for a few months because of a coupon or sale. Perhaps she or he is having a bunch of grandkids over or having a party for folks. You naturally assumed that the person was going to pig out on it, based on appearances. 

[ayin jade]

 

Where did I say that I think all people who are overweight or obese are uneducated gluttons? Like I said I think you're purposefully misunderstanding my posts. Please read what I wrote and not what you percieved (or are reading into) that I wrote.

 

God bless,

GE

 

 

Im getting the same read from your posts as man did. You stated that seeing a fat person buying pizza and ice cream makes you view them a certain way. Would you also view anyone else that way? You cannot see their heart. You have no idea what is going on with them or why they are buying what they are. For all you know they are buying food for a neighbor who is laid up after surgery. Yet you judge them based on appearances, something condemned in james.

[GoldenEagle]

 

An overweight person is not allowed to have pizza or snacks, or dine out once in a while? Only thin people?

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I personally know several people who are naturally thin, and put away more than 5 plates of food in one meal.  I’ve also seen them eating lots of junk food.  They can consume as much as they want all day and every day and never put on a pound.  No one assumes or says to them that they are a glutton when they are in a store buying their groceries or when eating out.

I see your point.You are overweight so here are your carrots.You are skinny so here is your lasagna and garlic bread and cake for dessert.

 

 

I'm not sure what others have said but I said all things in moderation are okay.

The issue is I'm a lot more tempted to eat a whole half gallon of ice cream than to eat a scoop every now and then.

Again, one of the reasons why people don't like to talk about this is it causes us to take a good long hard look in the mirror. It's also a subject that is glossed over in many churches today.

 

God bless,

GE

[ayin jade]

 

I'm not sure what others have said but I said all things in moderation are okay.

The issue is I'm a lot more tempted to eat a whole half gallon of ice cream than to eat a scoop every now and then.

Again, one of the reasons why people don't like to talk about this is it causes us to take a good long hard look in the mirror. It's also a subject that is glossed over in many churches today.

 

God bless,

GE

 

 

Im fat. 

 

I can look at desserts and not be tempted. I can walk away without a problem and refuse to eat them. The idea of eating that much ice cream makes me shudder. Im sorry you have that problem. But if I bought a half gallon because Im bringing it to a church picnic for instance, you would view me as a glutton according to your words earlier. 

[GoldenEagle]

To put it bluntly you are quite judgmental with that. Perhaps the person is stocking up for a few months because of a coupon or sale. Perhaps she or he is having a bunch of grandkids over or having a party for folks. You naturally assumed that the person was going to pig out on it, based on appearances. 

 

 

This is a good possibility re: a coupon or a sale. Buying in bulk is a good thing. However, are pizza, corn dogs, and hot dogs really the best things for kids to eat or to serve at a party?

I assumed that people who buy unhealthy food will eat said unhealthy food. But you're right perhaps they're buying food for someone else.

 

Im getting the same read from your posts as man did. You stated that seeing a fat person buying pizza and ice cream makes you view them a certain way. Would you also view anyone else that way? You cannot see their heart. You have no idea what is going on with them or why they are buying what they are. For all you know they are buying food for a neighbor who is laid up after surgery. Yet you judge them based on appearances, something condemned in james.

 

I said that seeing a large person buying pizza and ice cream (in excess) frustrates me.

In the area I live in obesity is often a lifestyle choice (unbalanced diet and lack of exercise), lack of nutritional awareness, and reproduction of malnutrition habits. There's lots of challenges where I live. Nutrition is just one of those challenges.

I do not judge people actually even though it may seem that way. Like I said I get frustrated. My heart breaks for people. The wife and I actually run a community center (apartment outreach) where we try to help families understand the need for balance in all areas of life: physical, financial, spiritual, etc. The other day I was at the grocery store and some little girls (maybe 7 and 9 years old) were eying some fruits (I believe they were some apples and pears). The parents got onto them for wanting such expensive food. They bought hot dogs and hot dog buns. But do you think they skipped over the 12 pack of bear or the cigarettes? Nope.

I bought a little gift card for them to get their fruit and told them about my Boss (Jesus) who loved them very much. Their eyes got really big and they couldn't help but smile. That God was all about giving presents to people. This all happened in less than 3-4 minutes.

I spent 15 minutes in the car weeping uncontrollably before I went home.

Do you see what I'm trying to say? Do you see my heart?

God bless,

GE

[GoldenEagle]

 

 

I'm not sure what others have said but I said all things in moderation are okay.

The issue is I'm a lot more tempted to eat a whole half gallon of ice cream than to eat a scoop every now and then.

Again, one of the reasons why people don't like to talk about this is it causes us to take a good long hard look in the mirror. It's also a subject that is glossed over in many churches today.

 

God bless,

GE

 

 

Im fat. 

 

I can look at desserts and not be tempted. I can walk away without a problem and refuse to eat them. The idea of eating that much ice cream makes me shudder. Im sorry you have that problem. But if I bought a half gallon because Im bringing it to a church picnic for instance, you would view me as a glutton according to your words earlier. 

 

I just used the ice cream as an example. Excess is not a good thing. Moderation isn't bad.

If you were shopping and all you had your basket was several gallons of ice cream, a bunch of pizza, a bunch of hot dogs, and a bunch of buns I might think you were throwing a party.

[ayin jade]

Thank you for explaining. 

 

This year, I was at a local bbq place waiting in line. I order the kids meal because it is smaller and cheaper. The bbq is not fattening. Its grilled chicken. I told them please do not give me the chocolate chip cookie that comes with it. Behind me I heard two young people snicker and say that fat woman (they used an unpleasant word instead) sure didnt need that cookie. So even when I try to eat right, I get judged for my weight. That kind of judgments happen too often. 

[WIP]

To eat with thanks in order to nourish the body  is what we are supposed to do .. in doing we.is to glorify God.

 

To eat in excess of what we should would not glorify God as it would not benefit the body.

 

Its very simple you know