"Christians" Who Continue to Sin

[conservator]

Lets make this simple.

 

Conservator has been told in front of his wife, by his wife's friend, that she is sleeping with men on the first date. She has been raised a Christian and has accepted Jesus as her savior.

 

She has slipped a bit and is in sin. We have all been there in different ways. Sin I mean. She is no different to you and I to a degree. Do you gossip (come on not even just a little bit?), tell the occasional lie? Have the occasional bad though about someone? (come on, not even once?). Type the occasional testy post to someone on an internet site? (Want to see some?).

 

All she needs is Love and Ministry and prayer, and perhaps some other help that only fellowship can bring.

 

Her admission is a cry, not a boast.

 

She needs Love, and Grace, and prayer.

 

Don't we all, sinners that we are?

Could not have said it better.    

[BFP]

Lets make this simple.

 

Conservator has been told in front of his wife, by his wife's friend, that she is sleeping with men on the first date. She has been raised a Christian and has accepted Jesus as her savior.

 

She has slipped a bit and is in sin. We have all been there in different ways. Sin I mean. She is no different to you and I to a degree. Do you gossip (come on not even just a little bit?), tell the occasional lie? Have the occasional bad though about someone? (come on, not even once?). Type the occasional testy post to someone on an internet site? (Want to see some?).

 

All she needs is Love and Ministry and prayer, and perhaps some other help that only fellowship can bring.

 

Her admission is a cry, not a boast.

 

She needs Love, and Grace, and prayer.

 

Don't we all, sinners that we are?

 

THANK YOU Fez!  You said it perfectly!

[missmuffet]

Being preachers/ministers kids we are "expected" to be more "perfect" than your average everyday churchgoer...and we know this from early childhood.  It wears on us bigtime.  Tongues wag as soon as a preachers kid does anything that might be considered a sin, because *we* of all people, should know better.  LOL!  Sorry but this post just hit me the wrong way because I know what standards I am supposed to be keeping as a preachers kid and there is no way i could ever live up to everyone elses ideas of who I should be simply because of my status. 

And the devil has a special appetite for destroying the families of those who minister.

Just defending someone I understand is all

That has to put alot of pressure on you.  A pastor and his family are only human....right?Yes,I can see your point about the devil not be an advocate for those who are Ministers.

[Guest]

Only GOD knows if she is saved or not. Salvation is not a license to sin. Being saved and continuing to sin without repentance and confession keeps one out of fellowship with their heavenly Father, but it does not cost us our salvation. Maybe she has just put GOD "on the shelf" as the saying goes. GOD will either reel her back in eventually or will say "I never knew you." That's the chance she seems willing to take. I know I did for many years - it seems so long ago. But GOD never abandoned me.

[nikki1]

God did not have a problem with destroying the people of  Sodom and Gomorrah for all of its prideful, lust, refusing to help the poor,  and sexual sins.  Something to think about.

[missmuffet]

God did not have a problem with destroying the people of  Sodom and Gomorrah for all of its prideful, lust, refusing to help the poor,  and sexual sins.  Something to think about.

Our world is on that level now or maybe worse.

[WIP]

God did not have a problem with destroying the people of  Sodom and Gomorrah for all of its prideful, lust, refusing to help the poor,  and sexual sins.  Something to think about.

 

I agree and immorality is a sin which scripture tells us is to be judged by the church and dealt with, not glossed over. It is a serious matter to be living in sexual immorality, and this lady needs to know just how serious it is.

 

1 Cor 5:5-12 

5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named^[a] among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! ² And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. ³ For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. ⁴ In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, ⁵ deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.^[b]

⁶ Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? ⁷ Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.^{[c] 8} Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

⁹ I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. ¹⁰ Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. ¹¹ But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

¹² For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? ¹³ But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”^[d]

[ayin jade]

 

Show her the verses in the epistles where paul states this is not a license to sin.

 

Found this in Romans 6:1-4: "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life."

 

Is this what you mean?

 

 

Yes

[Guest]

God did not have a problem with destroying the people of  Sodom and Gomorrah for all of its prideful, lust, refusing to help the poor,  and sexual sins.  Something to think about.

Yet he saved Lot and his family........less than 10 righteous ones. They obviously believed GOD and His promised Redeemer to come.

[ayin jade]

 It isnt up to you or your wife to convict her, it is up to God, since she claims to be his child.

 

That is why it is not up to us to judge...and by even thinking that maybe she isn't saved because she has divorces and slept with other men...well, that is jusdging her salvation...which is even worse than judging an action

 

It is however up to believers to admonish and remind her of how she should be living if she is a Christian. Not harass her, but to let her know she is in the wrong and what God expects.

 

As for judging, 1 corinthians 5 says we are to judge within the church. She is in continual sin.