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I'm sorry I missed this question when posted earlier as I was away for some time.

 

"Will there be sex in the new Heaven and new Earth?"

 

Nothing is said about natural peoples procreating in the New Heavens that I can find. But regarding the new Earth? Yes, natural people will live forever having families and population not only the Earth but the entire universe.

 

Yes, there will be marriage and children being born in the New Earth as proved by these Scriptures. The new Heaven and the New Earth are the result of the renovation by fire of 2 Peter 3:10-13. The destruction of the old sinful order on Earth will end and the renovation by fire will be the last time in all eternity that any part of the universe will be marred by sin and the rebellion of the creatures therein.

 

There will be natural men on this Earth forever and that natural life will continue in all eternity as God intended when He created such life on Earth.

 

In Isa. 66:22-24 God assures Israel that they shall be an earthly people forever.  "For as the New Heavens and the New Earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain."

 

In Rev. 21:3-4, 24-26 the men and nations mentioned are natural peoples for the tabernacle of God comes down to dwell among men and God shall wipe away all tears, etc. Such would not be true if these men were glorified saints, for God has been dwelling with them for 1,000years before these Scriptures are fulfilled. 

 

The Earth was created to be inhabited by natural beings and natural man was promised the Earth as an eternal inheritance from the very beginning (Ex. 32:13; Ps. 25:13; 37:9-11, 22, 29, 34; 69:36; 82:8; Isa. 60:21; Matt. 5:5; 25:34). All these passages were spoken to earthly people and will be fulfilled when earthly people inherit the Earth after the Milennium. Glorified saints will reign as kings and priests under Christ over these earthly peoples forever (Dan. 7:13-14, 18-27; Isa. 9:6-7; Luke 1:32-35; 1 Cor. 6:2; Rev. 5:9-10; 11:15; 20:4-10).

 

Those people who live on Earth during the Millennuim will not be glorified and enter into the same priviliges as the saints who have part in the first resurrection and who were glorified before the Millennium, for if the earthly people were glorified then who would be the subjects of the eternal kingdom that Christ and the pre-millennial glorified saints rule over?

 

Who would marry and reproduce the natural generations of men on the eternal earth? God created man to live forever in the natural body, as is clear from the fact that man would have lived a natural life forever if he had not sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The penalty fro mans sin was death-----physical, spiritual and eternal death. However the fall of man did not cause God to change His original and eternal plan for mankind on Earth. God cannot and will not in the end suffer defeat.

 

The Bible plainly declares there will be eternal generations of natuiral peoples (Gen. 9:12; 13:15; 17:7-8, 19; Ex. 3:15; 12:14, 42; 27:21; 30:8, 21; 31:16; 40:15; Lev. 3:17; 6:18; 10:9; 17:7; 23:14, 21, 31, 41; 24:3; 25:30; Num. 10:8; 15:15; 18:23; Deut. 5:29; 12:28; 28:46; 29:29; 2 Sam.7:24-29; 1 Chron. 23:25; Ps. 12:7; 45:17; 72:5; 79:13; 89:4; 100:5; 012:12, 24; 106:31; 119:90; 135:13; 145:13; 146:10; Isa. 9:6-7; 51:8; 59:21; Jer. 31:35-36; 32:38-40; Ezek. 37:24-28; Lam. 5:19; Dan. 2:44-45; 4:3, 34; 7:13-18; Joel 3:20; Luke 1:32-35. 55; Rev. 5:10; 11:15).

 

PLANTING AND HARVESTING, COLD AND HEAT, SUMMER AND WINTER, AND DAY AND NIGHT WILL GO ON WHILE THE EARTH REMAINS (Gen. 8:22' Ps. 104:5; Eccl. 1:4; Isa. 65:21-25; Micah 4:3-4; Joel 2:18-3:21).

 

What do you think?


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No, their will not be sex in heaven or the new earth for us who have been resurrected.


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No, their will not be sex in heaven or the new earth for us who have been resurrected.

 

I said that in my post,

"Those people who live on Earth during the Millennuim will not be glorified and enter into the same priviliges as the saints who have part in the first resurrection and who were glorified before the Millennium, for if the earthly people were glorified then who would be the subjects of the eternal kingdom that Christ and the pre-millennial glorified saints rule over?"

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Its the natural people who will continue on forever as God planned, not glorified resurrected saints who took part in the first resurrection!

I mentioned,

"Glorified saints will reign as kings and priests under Christ over these earthly peoples forever (Dan. 7:13-14, 18-27; Isa. 9:6-7; Luke 1:32-35; 1 Cor. 6:2; Rev. 5:9-10; 11:15; 20:4-10)."

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I believe their will be children among these people.So I am thinking their will be among those people.Although I could be wrong.The resurrected who are those in Christ who were resurrected with the Church will not have sex.


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Good day

 

I find this topic very interesting, in general, but the atmosphere was getting really harsh in the last thread.

 

Thomas

 

P.S.: I decided to move on and concentrate on "faith vs. science" topics only, if anyone is interested to know.

But I wish you are continuing a good debate.


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Short answer is Scripture doesn't speak directly to this question.

 

What we do know from Scripture is that there will not be marrying and giving away in the ressurection.

 

Matt. 22:23-33
The Sadducees: What About the Resurrection?

23 The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, 24 saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 25 Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. 26 Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. 27 Last of all the woman died also. 28 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.”
 

29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven. 31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” 33 And when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.

 

So my question is if there won't be marrying nor people given in marriage how will there be sex in the new Heaven and Earth?

God bless,

GE


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Isn't sex a desire of the flesh? When we look at Adam and Eve I believe God's intent to create Eve was for companionship and unconditional love, not sex. It's only after their fall that they began having children. So I believe that once we are renewed in our "pure" glorified bodies these desires will no long exist. Have you ever noticed that when you are filled with the Holy Spirit that nothing else matters? Not even a glimpse of desire or worldly thought enters your mind, until the effect wears off and your spirit comes back down to the world... I believe that we will be filled with the Holy Spirit 24/7 when we are renewed, so I really don't think that sex will be an issue anymore. Besides why the need to keep creating lives when we are immortal? We're talking about big time overpopulation of the new Earth if it was so...(Just my personal opinion) 


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All this makes me smile!

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1 Corinthians 2:9 But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”.  :confused:


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I really, really, really don't care an iota, a jot, a bit.

 

All I care about is sitting at the feet of Jesus

 

I really, really, really care about that.

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