Iran's Nuclear Ambitions

[Retrobyter]

Shalom, everyone.

 

It would seem to me that Iran and all others like her should remember (or learn the first time) the prophecy:

 

Isaiah 54:1-17

1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;

3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.

4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.

5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.

7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

9 For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.

11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.

12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.

13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.

15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.

16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.

17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

KJV

 

Although this is a prophecy about the future Millennium, there is a trickle-down effect. If no weapon formed against Isra'el shall prosper in the FUTURE, it only stands to reason that they must survive to the future! Therefore, no weapon formed against them today is going to "wipe them off the face of the earth!" If a country like Iran should try, it would only be hurting itself! IT WILL BACKFIRE! There's a better than even chance that they will BLOW THEMSELVES UP with their nuclear weapons!

[Guest DRS81]

Wondering if the easing of sanctions on Iran will hasten the Magog war against Israel prophesied in Ezekiel 38,39?   Once the US Senate ratifies the treaty, will this empower Iran and bring us closer to this prophetic war?

 

Blessings shiloh357, can you sum up what Ezekiel 38-39 are speaking of and what the word Magog or gog means. Is there specific scripture that points out prophecy about future war of (Iran/Israel) in Ez 38-39. Do these chapters happen before/during/after the seven seals or great tribulation? In verse 39:25 does the Lord restore Israel AFTER the great trib when Satan is bound a thousand years?

[Guest shiloh357]

Ezek 38 and 39 speak of a global alliance of European and Islamic nations that will descend on Israel and I believe that the leaders of this co-olition will be Russia and Iran.  I don't think Iran will get to use a nuke and so this will be next best thing to nuking Israel.  We see an overwhelming army that is designed for one purpose:  to wipe Israel out once and for all.

 

I believe this war precedes the tribulation.  I think the supernatural defeat of these nations will pave the way for Israel to be allowed to build the third temple which the anti-/christ will desecrate. The Gog Magog war will end with a resounding defeat of Islam and Islamic nations will not have the will to oppose Israel any longer.

[other one]

you can look at Ezekiel and pick the areas that it's speaking of.   

 

These are the areas that Noah's grandsons settled.

 

 

[GlidingWings]

I began to read the Book of Genesis first then Exodus and only as high as Leviticus. I had stopped reading the Bible and when I started reading again I started from Matthew. Pretty much I have been more familiar with New Testament Bible verses. So to be honest I have not read all Old Testament Books and chapters. . But over the past couple of years I have been implementing more Old Testament understanding to the New Testament. I did not know the Old Testament had so much to say about New Testament Prophecy fulfillment.

Learning about Daniel 12 helped me more to understand about the final hours of the 7 year Tribulation. I’m working on the Bible phase by phase little by little trying to at best connecting Old Testament with New Testament Scripture saying in my heart God knows all Things. If I am in a mystery of things the Lord knows my heart and my intentions and like everyone at Worthy I’m trying to find the answers.

Well recently I have been perplexed of this millennium 1000 years to occur after the Great Trib, the purpose of this age, and how things will be during this time. This is in Revelation Chapter 20 only in the New Testament trying to work with this chapter. If one reads this chapter they will see that after the 1000 years had expired Satan is loosed for a short time. Not only that but it also says there would be a Great War of Gog and Magog. So I believe the war of Gog and Magog happens after the Trib and after the 1000 years. See in Revelation chapter 20 the words Gog and Magog specified in that time period.

Now we went to read the book of Ezekiel Chapter 38 where we find this war. While it does appear that Ezekiel 38 seems like the war of the Great Trib there are some things that brings us to Revelation chapter 20 the End of 1000 years. . In Ezekiel 38 there is a mention of Hail stones and fire. Such is mentioned in Revelation 20 after the millennium. But Ezekiel also speaks of earthquake Rev. 20 does not. However I believe Ezekiel 38 is a bigger picture description of Revelation 20 that they can be put together. Because see in both Ezekiel 30 and Rev. 20 they will be numbered as the sand.

Therefore I don’t believe Gog and Magog will happen during the 7 year Trib, but only after the 1000 years. It makes sense because Ezekiel 38 actually talks about total elimination of all mankind even the birds of the air. I think then this fits as why the Second resurrection of the judgment and books are opened at this time.

Because after Rev. 20 which is Ezekiel 30 war Gog and Magog final judgment of the Book of Life is opened and all then are judged according to their works. So then after this is Rev. Chapter 21. Because after the war of Ezekiel 38 God will destroy the old Earth and old Heaven and He will make a New Heaven and New earth. Because in Chapter 21 has nothing more to do with any other time of History where God’s perfect peace is not put in place. Chapter 21 and 22 Rev. is the End of all ages while at the End of the Trib is the end of the Church age and begins the Millennium Age.

Why does God separate this 1000 years? Why is Satan released at the end? And why does God allow this war of Gog and Magog?  And the answer is??? I’m not certain as of yet but I am believing by faith even now if I don’t understand I trust God knows what God is doing. After all for several years I did not understand the Trinity and many other things in the Bible. It took me years to learn and understand. So if I don’t understand Gog and Magog or the millennium maybe it will take more years to know why.

If I am in a situation where I don’t understand my heart must say God I don’t know what this is or why. But you said so. I believe you anyways. One day I am sure for those things I don’t know of you will make things clear. Remember what Paul says

·  1 Corinthians 13:12 NIV

For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

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