When is anger righteous, and when is it not?

[rebbell]

 

What if... its like being angry at the hypocricy of justifying oneself as righteously indignant toward someone but condemning another for the same righteous indignation themselves for their own hypocricy.

 

I need an interpreter I don't know what I just said

 

Every time Jesus walked into the synagogues HE called them hypocrites and told them why.

HE was justified by GOD for doing GOD's will. He was following the instruction of the Father.

The gifts of GOD are without repentance.

Jesus didn't go in of HIS own accord throwing a fit. The hypocrites threw a fit, they didn't like what their itchy ears were hearing, they were offended and blamed HIM.

When in right standing with GOD, we will not be offended by anything we hear.

As it is written; we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

Self righteous pride points the finger in the other direction.

God bless

There are folks who believe they are more spiritual then others who do the same crap they accuse others of, they just cant see it.

Its hard to see a log in your own eye that's for sure lol

Amen sister; Amen 

[other one]

Painfully, I had learned some control over my actions when I'm in a temper. But I was still angry about the situation, no question about it, and because peace and quiet are prices worth fighting for, I got to "patrolling" the street outside (and for months!), establishing my "turf", explicitly stating now that they, the children, could no longer play near our house. And then driving them away, calmly but forcefully, whenever they did start playing, It was kind of funny, really. Me against the children. But if you realize that it was also me and God against satan, then you would see that it was not funny at all.

And it was my display of righteous anger, not my gentle admonitions, that has won the victory. Now the store has new tenants (a man and his wife with their little children) who respect my desire for peace and quiet. Now only kids from neighboring houses play in our part of the street, and they know now not to make too much noise (my patrolling days are finally over). And now I'm seeing that I have actually gained some respect from my neighbors, which is a very good thing for me

Of course, because I'm here in this forum asking for advice... my anger problems are not yet completely solved. But there definitely have been some improvements, because of these trials

So Other One, I hope that I have answered your question to your satisfaction....

Sometimes righteous anger is simply necessary.

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It seems to me like what worked was calm forceful behavior on your part that actually solved the problem, not anger...

 

Calm and forceful is not in my opinion righteous anger.

[Dak]

It seems to me like what worked was calm forceful behavior on your part that actually solved the problem, not anger...

Calm and forceful is not in my opinion righteous anger.

Yes, but I was still angry inside -- that was my righteous anger. And it had taken effort, to be calm and forceful.

This, I think, is what ninhao said. I could be justified in my anger, but what I do in response to that anger is a different matter entirely. With my anger, I can either choose to be Christlike -- calm and forceful, or I can choose to sin -- like shouting angrily at those children, which I actually did a few times in the beginning, and that's what I'm ashamed of....

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[Guest ninhao]

 

 

Every time Jesus walked into the synagogues HE called them hypocrites and told them why.

HE was justified by GOD for doing GOD's will. He was following the instruction of the Father.

The gifts of GOD are without repentance.

Jesus didn't go in of HIS own accord throwing a fit. The hypocrites threw a fit, they didn't like what their itchy ears were hearing, they were offended and blamed HIM.

When in right standing with GOD, we will not be offended by anything we hear.

As it is written; we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

Self righteous pride points the finger in the other direction.

God bless

 

 

Hello Rebbell this is interesting.

 

Can you tell me the significance of " The gifts of GOD are without repentance" concerning your post and this thread ? I don't understand.

[Dak]

Hello Rebbell this is interesting.

Can you tell me the significance of " The gifts of GOD are without repentance" concerning your post and this thread ? I don't understand.

Hi ninhao. I don't really understand it either, but I think she's saying that if you have God's gifts (like knowing beforehand what will happen), and is walking "perfectly" in his will, then you don't need to repent for any offence that you might make in carrying out that will -- because that offence is justified by God.

Like being angry. If your anger is righteous, and if you are "one" with God, then it's okay to offend people. Because you are already justified.

That's how I understand it anyway...

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[Dak]

I just want to say that I'm learning a lot in this thread. So I want to thank again all those who have replied....

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[WillfromTexas]

Is there such a thing as righteous anger?  Anger is anger and it isn't a sin- it's what you do in anger that is the sin.  Even God gets angry, and he certainly doesn't sin, it is a God given emotion.  I guess if there is righteous indignation it is being angry at those that blashphemy the Lord.  When I see non-believers make fun of Christians or the History channel twist the Bible into something unholy I get mad.

 

The Bible makes it clear though that we should strive not to be in an angry state.  Don't get anger mixed up with hatred.  Hate is an entity all to itself where you wish harm.  Anger is going to happen no matter how well a grip you have on your emotions.

 

I understand your anger issues...  I have struggled with them myself dealing with life's frustrations and things beyond my control.  Like you I strive not to be angry but with family members that know how to push your buttons and seek to anger you- it's going to happen.  Do your best to control it and regular exercise will release your pent up anger the best.  A punching bag is great- or just use a pillow- sounds silly but it works.

 

Just knowing you have an anger issue is the first step to you controlling it instead of it controlling you.  And always pray about the issue and let the Holy Spirits peace reign in your heart.  It's hard to stay angry when you start focusing on the important things of Jesus.

 

Psalm 4:4

Be angry [or stand in awe] and sin not; commune with your own hearts upon your beds and be silent (sorry for the things you say in your hearts). Selah [pause, and calmly think of that]!

 

Ephesians 4:26

When angry, do not sin; do not ever let your wrath (your exasperation, your fury or indignation) last until the sun goes down.

 

 

[Dak]

Thanks Will. I'll be thinking about the things you've said.

And yes, I've already recognized that my anger and my response to it are two different matters.

However, as my answer to your question, I do think that there is such a thing as a righteous anger (as separated from that kind of anger that comes only from our selfish selves). The one you've described about being mad with those who make fun of us Christians, and with those who twist the Bible is an example, and I think that this anger comes from the Holy Spirit himself. Because, would you care about these things, if you are not saved and do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside you?

I'm no theologian, but that's how I'm describing it.

My question is originally about knowing when my anger is righteous (so that I can use it for the good, because I do believe that God does use this kind of anger to empower us and motivate us), and when it is not (so that I can control it, to avoid sin and other undesirable consequences).

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[Guest ninhao]

My question is originally about knowing when my anger is righteous (so that I can use it for the good, because I do believe that God does use this kind of anger to empower us and motivate us), and when it is not (so that I can control it, to avoid sin and other undesirable consequences).

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I will say your anger will always be unrighteous when directed at me

[donfish06]

I do think that anger can be helpful sometimes, too. If you are stuck in a rut spiritually and finally get angry with yourself, sometimes it provides the "boost" needed to conquer what you were fighting. If it is other people always making you angry, then I cannot say when that would be righteous. It is hard to act in love if you are angry at someone