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and then again in a Roman prison expecting to die as a martyr when he wrote II Timothy.

 

Wow, that's pretty incredible shiloh.

Why didn't the Roman guards or people take his writings and throw um out? ...

According to Acts 28:30, while under house arrest Paul lived in Rome at his own expensive where he freely received visitors who would bring news and carry his missives to individuals and churches.


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Great is our God,and of great power;his understanding,is infinite.psalm 147:5" nobody born by a woman not even spirit can stop or question God,when ever he want to do something,he knows the mind of all man,If God can command a big fish to swallowed Jonah and release him after three days,my good God,Apostle Paul was a chosen vessel unto God,Acts 9:10-16"


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It is confirmed that Paul wrote 14 out of 66 books of the Holy Bible so.....

where exactly was he when he wrote these scriptures, and what condition was he in?...

was he free, in prison, what cities was he in, did he move from place to place, was he on the run?

When or if the Romans found these scriptures of his, why did they not throw them away?

I think it's fairly clear in the writings themselves where he was, and in what condition he was in.  His letters tot he churches usually preceded his arrival in those places, or were exhortations after he left.


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Due to his poor vision Paul often dictated his letters. Luke was one who helped him as did Mark and others. He mentioned signing one with his own hand. He was also in the habit of converting his guards, as did Watchman Nee during his 20 some year confinement in Chinese prisons where his books were written.


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but you need to understand that Paul's letters were copied and sent all over the known the world.  Even Peter refers to them as Scripture.  There is no way that anyone could destroy the Bible because God chose that period in time to make Himself known to the world and he used the sophisicated interstate roads and postal system that Rome had built as a means of delivering the Gospel all over the world.    There are thousands of copies of Paul's letters preserved from ancient times.  Not even the Roman Empire could have found and destroyed all of them.

 

But why didn't the Romans take the original copies.

How did Paul use the postal system in prison.

For example, if a Roman guard knew Paul was writing the original scripture why didn't that guard throw it away.

How did Paul find a way to mail out scripture in prison.

Was it illegal for a guard to throw away outgoing mail.

 

 

How do we know that he didn't write many more that weren't preserved?

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but you need to understand that Paul's letters were copied and sent all over the known the world.  Even Peter refers to them as Scripture.  There is no way that anyone could destroy the Bible because God chose that period in time to make Himself known to the world and he used the sophisicated interstate roads and postal system that Rome had built as a means of delivering the Gospel all over the world.    There are thousands of copies of Paul's letters preserved from ancient times.  Not even the Roman Empire could have found and destroyed all of them.

 

But why didn't the Romans take the original copies.

How did Paul use the postal system in prison.

For example, if a Roman guard knew Paul was writing the original scripture why didn't that guard throw it away.

How did Paul find a way to mail out scripture in prison.

Was it illegal for a guard to throw away outgoing mail.

 

 

How do we know that he didn't write many more that weren't preserved?

 

 

Good point.


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but you need to understand that Paul's letters were copied and sent all over the known the world.  Even Peter refers to them as Scripture.  There is no way that anyone could destroy the Bible because God chose that period in time to make Himself known to the world and he used the sophisicated interstate roads and postal system that Rome had built as a means of delivering the Gospel all over the world.    There are thousands of copies of Paul's letters preserved from ancient times.  Not even the Roman Empire could have found and destroyed all of them.

 

But why didn't the Romans take the original copies.

How did Paul use the postal system in prison.

For example, if a Roman guard knew Paul was writing the original scripture why didn't that guard throw it away.

How did Paul find a way to mail out scripture in prison.

Was it illegal for a guard to throw away outgoing mail.

 

 

How do we know that he didn't write many more that weren't preserved?

 

 

Good point.

 

Paul was a Roman citizen (Luke says he was in Acts), and this gave him certain privileges above that of non Roman. Letter delivery would be the least of these. He could not for instance be scourged, nor crucified (unless he committed treason and the Emperor ordered it) 

 

http://www.academia.edu/3793625/Paul_the_Roman_Citizen_Roman_Citizenship_in_the_Ancient_World_and_its_Importance_for_Understanding_Acts_22_22-29


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Due to his poor vision Paul often dictated his letters. Luke was one who helped him as did Mark and others. He mentioned signing one with his own hand. He was also in the habit of converting his guards, as did Watchman Nee during his 20 some year confinement in Chinese prisons where his books were written.

My understanding is that Watchman Nee's "The Spiritual Man" was the only book actually fully penned by him and this book was finished early in his life long before his imprisonment. All other books bearing his name are rewritten by his followers from careful notes taken at his many teaching sessions before his imprisonment. As far as I know, the Chinese kept Watchman quite isolated during his imprisonment. The Chinese are MUCH more brutal and restrictive than were the Romans. I have read many of the books as well as an exhaustive biography of Nee. He was quite a man of God!

 

As far as Paul, you have to take into account that he was a Roman citizen, a distinction that afforded him much better conditions and more freedoms within his jailings and confinements, except when the jailors were not aware of this fact, as at Phillipi originally. The officials were terrified when they found out Paul and Silas were citizens and had been harshly treated. I agree with the other posts and summarize the many points by saying that the Holy Spirit is the true author and preserver of the 

Scriptures, and Paul was a mighty vessel able and willing to be the tool and weapon of God (in Spiritual things!). The physical details are indeed interesting, as they should encourage us how real and caring God is, and what lengths He goes to exalt His word.

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It is confirmed that Paul wrote 14 out of 66 books of the Holy Bible so.....

where exactly was he when he wrote these scriptures, and what condition was he in?...

was he free, in prison, what cities was he in, did he move from place to place, was he on the run?

When or if the Romans found these scriptures of his, why did they not throw them away?

I think the list is 13:

RCC = royal crown cola,

AEIO (but no U)

3 T's which are 5

Philemon

 

RCC = royal crown cola, Romans, 1 & 2 Cor

AEIO (but no U), gAl, Eph, phIlip, cOl

3 T's which are 5, 1 & 2 Thes, 1 & 2 Tim, Titus

Philemon

 

If you think Hebrews was written by Paul, then 14, though Paul's name is not on the book.

 

The place would vary.

 

IMHO:

 

Galatians was written 1st, right after the first missionary journey of Acts 13-14, and right before the Jerusalem Council of Acts 15 -- could be from Antioch (his base of operations for 3 missionary journeys), could be on the road from Antioch to Jerusalem.

 

Romans, 1 & 2 Cor, 1 & 2 Thes. were written during the time span of the 2 & 3rd missionary journeys, before he was arrested in Jerusalem at the end of Acts.  Thus one or more places in those journeys is indicated On those journeys he was in Asia Minor & Greece (including Macedonia) & on the road or sea en route.

 

Ephesians, Colossians, Philppians, & Philemon are called the "Prison epistles," but more likely "house imprisonment epistles," as end of Acts indicates he was put under house arrest, not in a prison per se.

 

1 Timothy & Titus were written apparently after Paul was released from his Roman house arrest imprisonment.  I am not sure exactly from where.

 

2 Timothy was evidently written from the Mamertine Prison in Rome in Paul's 2nd confinement.  The WickedPedia says:  "The Mamertine Prison, in antiquity the Tullianum, was a prison located in the Comitium in ancient Rome. It was located on the northeastern slope of the Capitoline Hill, facing the Curia and the imperial fora of Nerva, Vespasian, and Augustus."

 

This is evidently Paul's swan song and a very moving letter.


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It is confirmed that Paul wrote 14 out of 66 books of the Holy Bible so.....

where exactly was he when he wrote these scriptures, and what condition was he in?...

was he free, in prison, what cities was he in, did he move from place to place, was he on the run?

When or if the Romans found these scriptures of his, why did they not throw them away?

 

 

Paul was in Corinth when he wrote I and II Thessalonians and  Romans.

 

He was in Ephesus when he wrote I Corinthians.  

 

He was in Macedonia when he wrote II Corinthians. 

 

He was in a Roman prison when he wrote Ephesians, Phillippians, Colossians, Philemon.   

 

It is not clear where Paul was when he wrote to the churches in the Galatian region. 

 

Titus was written from either Corinth or Nicopolis

 

He was in Macedonia when he wrote I Timothy and then again in a Roman prison expecting to die as a martyr when he wrote II Timothy.

 

"He was in a Roman prison when he wrote Ephesians, Phillippians, Colossians, Philemon."  Actually he was under house arrest in his own home -- so it appears at the end of Acts.  But this business about being in a Roman prison has been repeated so many times, that I don't wonder that I see it again.

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