What does it mean to "support" something...

[LookingForAnswers]

If you support the right of people to choose do a certain thing, does that mean you support that action?

As an example, I support the right of people to choose to get falling down drunk if they so desire as long as they are not driving or otherwise harming another individual.   I do not support, approve of or think it is a good idea to get falling down drunk, but I do not feel it is my place to force my values on others.  

Another example, I support the right of Kim Kardashian to be married for all of 71 days and then get divorced.  I do not approve of the action nor do I even support throw away marriages, but I do support the right of people under the laws of our land to make those choices for themselves. 

Is this the same as supporting the actions themselves?  Thank you in advance for your comments.

[missmuffet]

Yes,I think it does mean that you support their actions.It is a person's choice to get falling down drunk.I do not support it.They are doing alot of damage to their body by doing that.I am not opposed to having a drink once on awhile.God has given man a choice to as he pleases.Their will be consequences if that person does not choose Jesus Christ and that is hell when they die.

[LookingForAnswers]

Yes,I think it does mean that you support their actions.It is a person's choice to get falling down drunk.I do not support it.They are doing alot of damage to their body by doing that.I am not opposed to having a drink once on awhile.God has given man a choice to as he pleases.Their will be consequences if that person does not choose Jesus Christ and that is hell when they die.

 

I agree that it is not a good action, but who are you and I to tell another person what to do with their own body?  Can one not support the right to choose an action without supporting the action?  If God has given man a choice to as he pleases, how are we to tell that same man not to do something (as long as he is not harming anyone but himself?).   Do you agree with this statement...God supports my right to choose an action yet he does not always support those actions

[missmuffet]

 

Yes,I think it does mean that you support their actions.It is a person's choice to get falling down drunk.I do not support it.They are doing alot of damage to their body by doing that.I am not opposed to having a drink once on awhile.God has given man a choice to as he pleases.Their will be consequences if that person does not choose Jesus Christ and that is hell when they die.

 

I agree that it is not a good action, but who are you and I to tell another person what to do with their own body?  Can one not support the right to choose an action without supporting the action?  If God has given man a choice to as he pleases, how are we to tell that same man not to do something (as long as he is not harming anyone but himself?).   Do you agree with this statement...God supports my right to choose an action yet he does not always support those actions

 

That is true.Everyone has a choice.God loves us so much that He has given us a choice.Although there can be consequences to our choices if we do not act responsibly.Do you not think it is self centered to want to hurt ourself?Or maybe a self destructive act?Sometimes a person is hurting others by not acting in a responisible way.God gives us guidelines in the Bible on how we should choose.He loves us and does not want us to suffer.But a person who is not a Christian would not do that.I read in the news all the time of the bad choices people have made.Some real tragedies have come from those choices.

[Willa]

Do you think it is OK for a person to commit suicide because he is only harming himself? That is simply not true. All our actions affect others and there is nothing more defestating to family or aquaintences than a suicide. Even when we don't know a person very well, we always blame ourselves a little for not having done something to make a difference.

The drunk also causes family and friends grief. They feel so helpless because there is little they can do to prevent it or change them, and it hurts to see them waste their lives. We know they are miserable or they would not find it such a good way of escape. And those of us who are Christians know such a wonderful alternative in the love of God. Some even become violent when they are drunk and cause a great deal of harm to people and property. Then there is the example and influence on younger or more impressionable people who would this as an excuse to also make bad decisions. Some poet said that no man is an island unto himself. There is some truth in it.

In some countries we have a lot of freedom to do evil things. This is not necessarily a good thing. People ask why God allows evil. Why do our governments change our laws so as to allow evil? God has left some of these things up to us to regulate. And so many of these evils have grown at a huge rate after they were legalized. The statement that you can't legislate morality is a falicy. You either support morality with laws or you hinder it. It is high time we did impose morality on others who have never been taught good values. Just my humble opinion lol.

[Fez]

Voltaire said "I disagree violently with what you are saying, but will defend your right to say it to the death". or words to that equivalent.

 

Voltaire was wrong. It is such an open ended quote, and Willamina sums up in part in her post why he was wrong.

[Melyn]

When a person has been made decide to do certain things, it is hard to stop that person from doing so unless God works miracle into his/her heart. If you are moved to help that person, you will be telling that person about Jesus? Or pray for that person if you are lead to. Hopefully His will be done. It is either Jesus or no right? But if that person continues to be that way then let that person be, no point putting gun on that person head forcing that person to stop what that person do. Why support when you have yet do something for that person that he/she may come to the truth? If you want to stand up for something, stand up for whom you serve. And let it be for the afterwards if they do not believe in God. There is no need for the 'support' at all to come in. Either speak the truth or shun.

[Melyn]

It is more like 'let it be', rather than encouraging it. There will come an end of time for each individual on earth, then they will have to face God's judgement. And you know exactly what that means.

[Guest shiloh357]

There is no sin you can commit that doesn't harm other people.   Every choice we make has far reaching consequences, many time unintended. We don't see the big picture and so the notion that I have no right to say about what you do in the privacy of your home, isn't true.   The things you choose to do today are seeds that someone will reap the harvest of later.

 

What is really telling is attitude that I care so little about you that I will allow you to continue to destroy your body because that is your "right."   Your "right"  to destroy your live overrides any moral obligation upon me to at least try to lead out of that self-destructive tail spin.

 

How many people will go to hell because someone else decided that that person's "right" to live a certain way was more important than bringing them to the truth??   The notion that we can't pass laws to regulate behavior usually stems from a moral indifference to that behavior.  We have no problem with laws that prohibit activities that we are genuinely opposed to.   We usually oppose legislation that regulates or prohibits the kinds of activities that we are either morally indifferent to, or are in favor of.

[LookingForAnswers]

Do you think it is OK for a person to commit suicide because he is only harming himself? That is simply not true. All our actions affect others and there is nothing more defestating to family or aquaintences than a suicide. Even when we don't know a person very well, we always blame ourselves a little for not having done something to make a difference.

The drunk also causes family and friends grief. They feel so helpless because there is little they can do to prevent it or change them, and it hurts to see them waste their lives. We know they are miserable or they would not find it such a good way of escape. And those of us who are Christians know such a wonderful alternative in the love of God. Some even become violent when they are drunk and cause a great deal of harm to people and property. Then there is the example and influence on younger or more impressionable people who would this as an excuse to also make bad decisions. Some poet said that no man is an island unto himself. There is some truth in it.

In some countries we have a lot of freedom to do evil things. This is not necessarily a good thing. People ask why God allows evil. Why do our governments change our laws so as to allow evil? God has left some of these things up to us to regulate. And so many of these evils have grown at a huge rate after they were legalized. The statement that you can't legislate morality is a falicy. You either support morality with laws or you hinder it. It is high time we did impose morality on others who have never been taught good values. Just my humble opinion lol.

Who's morality should we impose on others?  Which brand of Christianity should get to choose which morality we codify into law?  Should we be stoning women for wearing pants?  Some would tell you that even a single drink is a sin, that R rated movies are immoral and should be banned.  Dancing, well that is a for sure a sin.  How about outlawing lust?  To lust is a sin and is immoral.  Is there anything less moral that sex outside of marriage?  I assume you think we should make this action illegal as well to "impose our morality" on others.