LookingForAnswers Posted January 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2014 As of right now, this is scheduled to be Live Streamed for Free: http://debatelive.org/ Tuesday Feb 4, 7PM ET. I am very much excited for this... it will be awesome to see the Glory God will bring to Himself in this I wish I had your confidence about who will get the most glory after this debate-God or satan. Personally, I think public opinion will strongly favor the science guy and the Christian will come out looking silly. We shall see. I don't see why people think that Bily Nye is going to have such an easy go at it in this debate. Billy Nye is not a Biologist. He has no advanced degrees in any of life sciences, nor does he have a degree in Physics, Geology, Astronomy, Astrophysics, or whatever. Bill Nye has a bachelor's degree in science in the field of mechanical engineering. He has some honorary doctrates in the same field. He was a mechanical engineer at Boeing, but he is not really a "science guy." Nye's portfolio isn't really all that impressive. Critics of Ken Ham think that Nye is going to wipe the floor with him, but based on educational background alone, Ham has actually clocked in more hours with actual life sciences and physical sciences than Nye. I am a critic of Ken Ham and I think just the opposite, Ken Ham is a professional debater, Nye is a performer but debates are totally different. Debates are not won on substance, they are won on style. Ham has a Bachelors in Applied Science, all his other degrees are honorary. He has never worked in any field of science, unless you consider AIG to be a filed of science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 "Debates are not won on substance." LOL Yeah that'll be the convenient "explanation" given if Ham actually ends up scoring more points in the debate than Nye does. That way folks won't have to grapple with the real implications staring them in the face if Ham wins the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted January 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2014 There is nothing revolutionary or even questionable about that statement, it is a fact of debating. Flair and drama can win the day over substance, that is debating 101. Debating 102 is the key to winning a debate is to knock down the other guy more so than to support your view. Seems of all people, with your debating skills would know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 There is nothing revolutionary or even questionable about that statement, it is a fact of debating. Flair and drama can win the day over substance, that is debating 101. Debating 102 is the key to winning a debate is to knock down the other guy more so than to support your view. Seems of all people, with your debating skills would know this. If Nye wins the debate it will trotted out as proof that Creationists don't know anything about science and are scientically illitereate. If Ham wins, it will be explained away as Ham simply having a better debate style. Let's at least try to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted January 22, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2014 There is nothing revolutionary or even questionable about that statement, it is a fact of debating. Flair and drama can win the day over substance, that is debating 101. Debating 102 is the key to winning a debate is to knock down the other guy more so than to support your view. Seems of all people, with your debating skills would know this. If Nye wins the debate it will trotted out as proof that Creationists don't know anything about science and are scientically illitereate. If Ham wins, it will be explained away as Ham simply having a better debate style. Let's at least try to be honest. If Nye wins the debate those that agree with him will trot it out as proof that Creationists don't know anything about science and are scientifically illiterate and those that disagree with him will say it was all based on style. If Ham wins the debate those that agree with him will trot it out as proof that Creationists do know a lot about science and those that disagree with him will say it was all based on style. That is the nature of debates. I think this one will not be "won" by either, on the surface both are charismatic and used to playing to an audience, though Nye's experience is a bit different. Despite your earlier comments it seems they are equals in the education department so that will not really play a roll in this. In the end you will likely have both sides calming victory with neither being a clear winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted January 23, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted January 23, 2014 My prediction: Both sides will walk away claiming victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,154 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,443 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 23, 2014 My prediction only one will for all eternity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted January 23, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2014 My prediction only one will for all eternity... I certainly hope you are incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,154 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,443 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I assure you I am correct:When you take God's Word as His Word alone and let that Word define Itself - then produce itin living form by placing the whole weight of your being upon it= you have only done spirituallywhat God did first in instruction to us through creation spiritually >He In His Spirit Spoke it allinto being< in six literal evening and morning days. 24 hour periods illuminated by this Wordwithin His Word-Gen 1:1414 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the dayfrom the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:KJVReiterated in Exodus specificEx 20:1111 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea,and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.KJVIn fact this word for day used in the Hebrew tongue reverberates throughout the OT asa 24 hour period 1276 times defining epochs of understanding important within that meterof time! In a very critical sense in Daniel to the day when The Christ entered into Jerusalem!As this is the meter on that day Ken Ham will defend this meter of time by the literal senseof God's Word Itself by God's Word. How do I know I am eternally right in this?Matt 24:3535 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.KJVLove, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingForAnswers Posted January 23, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,033 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 23, 2014 Then you hold out no hope of a change of heart by one of them. Hopefully one with a more hopeful outlook will be able to each the individual in question. There is always hope as long as he is still on this earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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