Celibacy - Gift/No Gift

[Guest DRS81]

Hey guys, and good evening. I have a good question.

 

Do you think celibacy is a gift implanted from God into a christian, or is it something that takes time, practice, service and continual prayer..

 

thus being a choice we make.. - Blessings All, DRS81

[other one]

I would think that there is no one answer to that question that would fit everyone.

[EnochBethany]

I would think that there is no one answer to that question that would fit everyone.

no one answer?  How many answers do you want?

 

Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.  2 But, because of fornications, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. 

[My, how politicalshmical incorrect; how discriminatory!]

3 Let the husband render unto the wife her due: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.  4 The wife hath not power over her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power over his own body, but the wife.  5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be by consent for a season, that ye may give yourselves unto prayer, and may be together again, that Satan tempt you not because of your incontinency.  6 But this I say by way of concession, not of commandment.  7  Yet I would that all men were even as I myself. Howbeit each man hath his own gift from God, one after this manner, and another after that.

[Guest DRS81]

7  Yet I would that all men were even as I myself. Howbeit each man hath his own gift from God, one after this manner, and another after that.

 

Thank you for that scripture Enoch, and blessings.

So how does one know if they have the gift of continence or the gift of marriage.

How does a christian come to this knowledge of himself/herself...through prayer?

[EnochBethany]

 

7  Yet I would that all men were even as I myself. Howbeit each man hath his own gift from God, one after this manner, and another after that.

 

Thank you for that scripture Enoch, and blessings.

So how does one know if they have the gift of continence or the gift of marriage.

How does a christian come to this knowledge of himself/herself...through prayer?

 

Well, 1 Cor 7 starts out with a general order to get married (man to woman, woman to man).  Celebacy is the exception.  IMHO one knows if one itches for sex or not.  If one is disinterested, as a Christian that would seem to be a spiritual gift enabling one to concentrate more on the Lord.  But if you are burning & yearning, having physiological responses consistent with an urge to mate, you don't have the gift.

[Guest DRS81]

 

 

7  Yet I would that all men were even as I myself. Howbeit each man hath his own gift from God, one after this manner, and another after that.

 

Thank you for that scripture Enoch, and blessings.

So how does one know if they have the gift of continence or the gift of marriage.

How does a christian come to this knowledge of himself/herself...through prayer?

 

Well, 1 Cor 7 starts out with a general order to get married (man to woman, woman to man).  Celebacy is the exception.  IMHO one knows if one itches for sex or not.  If one is disinterested, as a Christian that would seem to be a spiritual gift enabling one to concentrate more on the Lord.  But if you are burning & yearning, having physiological responses consistent with an urge to mate, you don't have the gift.

 

 

I see. Ok, what if say a person is disinterested in having kids, would you say they also have the gift?

 

For example, what if one yearns for sex but doesn't want kids vs. one that doesn't yearn for sex and doesn't want kids.

[EnochBethany]

 

 

 

7  Yet I would that all men were even as I myself. Howbeit each man hath his own gift from God, one after this manner, and another after that.

 

Thank you for that scripture Enoch, and blessings.

So how does one know if they have the gift of continence or the gift of marriage.

How does a christian come to this knowledge of himself/herself...through prayer?

 

Well, 1 Cor 7 starts out with a general order to get married (man to woman, woman to man).  Celebacy is the exception.  IMHO one knows if one itches for sex or not.  If one is disinterested, as a Christian that would seem to be a spiritual gift enabling one to concentrate more on the Lord.  But if you are burning & yearning, having physiological responses consistent with an urge to mate, you don't have the gift.

 

 

I see. Ok, what if say a person is disinterested in having kids, would you say they also have the gift?

 

For example, what if one yearns for sex but doesn't want kids vs. one that doesn't yearn for sex and doesn't want kids.

 

Wanting kids is another issue.  If you got the itch, you don't have the gift.  And as the start of the chapter says, You had needs marry because the the very dangerous temptation, avoidable by a man rejoicing in the wife of his youth" as Proverbs says:

 

Prov 5

 

"Let thy fountain be blessed;

    And rejoice in the wife of thy youth.

19   As a loving hind and a pleasant doe,

    Let her breasts satisfy thee at all times;

    And  be thou ravished always with her love.

20     For why shouldest thou, my son,  be ravished with a strange woman,

    And embrace the bosom of a foreigner?"

[Guest DRS81]

Wanting kids is another issue.  If you got the itch, you don't have the gift.

 

How is it another issue. God made sex specifically to procreate.

[Guest DRS81]

That is a given, but it is certainly not a requirement that one remain unmarried.  Some people can, and some people can't.

 

It's not a requirement, but it's a choice a person makes.

Avoiding marriage because one does not want kids is a good reason I think.

However, there might be persecution if you decide to remain single.

[EnochBethany]

 

Wanting kids is another issue.  If you got the itch, you don't have the gift.

 

How is it another issue. God made sex specifically to procreate.

 

Well, he did tell man to be fruitful & multiply. Perhaps that has been fulfilled?  But the first purpose given of creating woman was that it was not good that man should live alone.  I know of no scripture that says one is sinning is one avoids conceiving children; but whatever we do it should be becs we love the Lord, neighbor, & want to glorify Him.  1 Cor 7 indicates specifically that a very important purpose of marriage is to avoid fornication.