Genesis Posted July 25, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 64 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2014 God hates sinners. Please refer me to the Bible scripture that says exactly that. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzyehoshua Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 89 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/08/1984 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Here's a passage I think sheds light on Jesus' sacrifice. Jesus had the glory and power of Heaven and the universe itself at His control, but risked His power, His privilege, and His authority in an attempt to save the human race. He took the form of a servant, bearing humiliation and risking everything, to try and save others. Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. It may also be contrasted with the following: John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. Isaiah 59:15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 ¶ And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. 20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisCWilson Posted August 15, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 116 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/07/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/21/1952 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? You seem to be unaware that Jesus was crucified through the "eternal Spirit". It was not a one time deal as you are thinking, and now everything is OK. The reason Jesus does not need to offer himself for our sins every year as they did in the Old Testament is because his sacrifice for mans sins was eternal. There will never be a time throughout all eternity when the blood of Jesus Christ which he sprinkled on God's mercy will ever dry up, nor will his body be without the scars in his hands, feet, and side. For man to be able to live forever in God's presents required a sacrifice that would last for ever. Why would a God who created all things give so much up for his creation. Because he loved man so much he would die to save him from death, even if it meant to confine himself with a body scared for eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristServantSean Posted August 20, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 32 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/09/1989 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Its quite simple if im honest. Jesus was sent for two reasons. To teach and to sacrifice. He taught the ways which would help us get to heaven. He taught us humbleness, love, mercy, compassion. He taught us grace. Through Jesus we no longer live by Law, but by grace. He taught how to preach the Good News and taught of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. He sacrificed not just his life, but he copped a brutal, punishing, bloody, merciless beating for us. He was whipped, tortured, mocked, left half dead, and ultimately nailed to the Cross. Because of US and our sinful ways. He saved us from eternity in Hell - if we do what he asks of us as followers. So to answer your question, yes, he certainly did sacrifice for us. The greatest sacrifice of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisCWilson Posted August 30, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 116 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/07/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/21/1952 Share Posted August 30, 2014 For man to have eternal life, it required an eternal sacrifice. Jesus Christ's blood that he himself brought before the Father within the veil of Heaven in which he sprinkled upon the mercy seat of God will never dry up, and it always speak better things than that of abel. This man "Jesus Christ" after he had made one sacrifice for sins FOREVER sat down on the right hand of God. (Heb 10:12) Jesus was crucified through the eternal Spirit. So, even though he was crucified once, that sacrifice is eternal. Jesus will always have the nail prints in his hands, feet, and side as a reminder of his love toward us for ever!!! Isa 49:15 "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you. Isa 49:16 Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are continually before me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted August 30, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted August 30, 2014 For man to have eternal life, it required an eternal sacrifice. Jesus Christ's blood that he himself brought before the Father within the veil of Heaven in which he sprinkled upon the mercy seat of God will never dry up, and it always speak better things than that of abel. This man "Jesus Christ" after he had made one sacrifice for sins FOREVER sat down on the right hand of God. (Heb 10:12) Jesus was crucified through the eternal Spirit. So, even though he was crucified once, that sacrifice is eternal. Jesus will always have the nail prints in his hands, feet, and side as a reminder of his love toward us for ever!!! Isa 49:15 "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you. Isa 49:16 Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are continually before me. Where does it say that in the bible? Not is the scripture you quoted, so where please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisCWilson Posted August 30, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 116 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/07/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/21/1952 Share Posted August 30, 2014 For man to have eternal life, it required an eternal sacrifice. Jesus Christ's blood that he himself brought before the Father within the veil of Heaven in which he sprinkled upon the mercy seat of God will never dry up, and it always speak better things than that of abel. This man "Jesus Christ" after he had made one sacrifice for sins FOREVER sat down on the right hand of God. (Heb 10:12) Jesus was crucified through the eternal Spirit. So, even though he was crucified once, that sacrifice is eternal. Jesus will always have the nail prints in his hands, feet, and side as a reminder of his love toward us for ever!!! Isa 49:15 "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you. Isa 49:16 Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are continually before me. Where does it say that in the bible? Not is the scripture you quoted, so where please? Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. Heb 9:21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Is there anything else you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelquill Posted September 6, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/14/1950 Share Posted September 6, 2014 The part I don't get is... If you are an "unbeliever"...why would you "take umbrage" at being called one? Or do you have a problem with being an "unbeliever"? Cuz I could understand if that were the case. You do know that God is listening, or don't you? He is only waiting for you to talk to Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelquill Posted September 6, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/14/1950 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Surely, if you have questions, you ought to be able to ask them? I don't think it is wrong to question our faith...for me, at least, my experience has been that from great questions has come even greater faith. Faith that cannot be tested, cannot be trusted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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