Peteeeer Posted May 30, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/28/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/01/1992 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted May 30, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. From my experience some S. Baptist and Independent Baptist churches teach said doctrine. Or even Church of Christ... It's not uncommon in the Bible belt for people to claim that drinking alcohol is sin. God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I was just holding up a mirror, Shiloh. I know that was what you were trying to do. But I didn't judge anyone for gambling so you really didn't accomplish anything by that. Kind of pointless and rather dishonest. So was your accusation against Peter. Pointless and dishonest. No, it wasn't. A lot of people saw what I saw and called him on it too. But I am not going to sit around and ride this merry go round with you. If you have something important to post, the fine. If not, fine. Maybe he misunderstood those who are overweight and made false assumptions. But so did you about those who play slot machines and buy lotto tickets. I didn't condemn anyone for playing slot machines or buying lotto tickets. They took it personal because I said that gambling is a sin. They projected something on to me that I didn't say or even imply. Post ONE comment where I condemned anyone. I condemned the sin not the sinner. But I am treated as if my condemnation of the sin is a condemnation of the sinner. A lot of people saw what I saw and called you on it, too (mirror again). No, you saw what you wanted to see and decided to assign false values to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. From my experience some S. Baptist and Independent Baptist churches teach said doctrine. Or even Church of Christ... It's not uncommon in the Bible belt for people to claim that drinking alcohol is sin. God bless, GE Well that's where I live and I have never been told that drinking was sin, that only drunkness is a sin. That was stressed when I was in the youth groups and stuff. We were encouraged just to stay away from it, but were told that drunkness is what the Bible condemns. They may have taught it was sin back in 1958 or something but not back in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteeeer Posted May 30, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/28/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/01/1992 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. From my experience some S. Baptist and Independent Baptist churches teach said doctrine. Or even Church of Christ... It's not uncommon in the Bible belt for people to claim that drinking alcohol is sin. God bless, GE Well that's where I live and I have never been told that drinking was sin, that only drunkness is a sin. That was stressed when I was in the youth groups and stuff. We were encouraged just to stay away from it, but were told that drunkness is what the Bible condemns. They may have taught it was sin back in 1958 or something but not back in the 80s. So your assumption that I made this up was wrong. But of course, you cannot be wrong, I forgot that. Maybe you were just 'inaccurate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted May 30, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted May 30, 2014 One more personal attack by anyone on this thread and I will have to exclude them from the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. From my experience some S. Baptist and Independent Baptist churches teach said doctrine. Or even Church of Christ... It's not uncommon in the Bible belt for people to claim that drinking alcohol is sin. God bless, GE Well that's where I live and I have never been told that drinking was sin, that only drunkness is a sin. That was stressed when I was in the youth groups and stuff. We were encouraged just to stay away from it, but were told that drunkness is what the Bible condemns. They may have taught it was sin back in 1958 or something but not back in the 80s. So your assumption that I made this up was wrong. But of course, you cannot be wrong, I forgot that. Maybe you were just 'inaccurate'. NO, I just think it is a common assumption and misperception that Christians who drink pass around and parrot from each other. They think they are being judged by other Christians, most of whom don't care one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted May 30, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,061 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,808 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2014 I was just holding up a mirror, Shiloh. I know that was what you were trying to do. But I didn't judge anyone for gambling so you really didn't accomplish anything by that. Kind of pointless and rather dishonest. So was your accusation against Peter. Pointless and dishonest. No, it wasn't. A lot of people saw what I saw and called him on it too. But I am not going to sit around and ride this merry go round with you. If you have something important to post, the fine. If not, fine. Maybe he misunderstood those who are overweight and made false assumptions. But so did you about those who play slot machines and buy lotto tickets. A lot of people saw what I saw and called you on it, too (mirror again). 'Tis the same thing. I am saying this as someone who doesn't touch slot machines or lotto tickets, but really loves food. I was only speaking of the people that I know..... I know a lot of people who like to go spend a few bucks playing slot machines but none of them are addicted to gambling..... I worked in the back rooms of both casinos and race tracks and witnessed thousands of people gambling in both places.... I haven't even played slots until I retired 4 years ago because to work in the areas where gambling occurred, I have to have a gambling license and with that license one is not allowed to either gamble in casinos or race tracks period..... but I saw a lot of people come and go from both places....... many more people hurt themselves at the race track than did those at the casinos..... it takes no real skill to see it in their eyes so that's where I came from...... strictly personal experience that one is free to take or leave with no problem from me whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteeeer Posted May 30, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 28 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/28/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/01/1992 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. From my experience some S. Baptist and Independent Baptist churches teach said doctrine. Or even Church of Christ... It's not uncommon in the Bible belt for people to claim that drinking alcohol is sin. God bless, GE Well that's where I live and I have never been told that drinking was sin, that only drunkness is a sin. That was stressed when I was in the youth groups and stuff. We were encouraged just to stay away from it, but were told that drunkness is what the Bible condemns. They may have taught it was sin back in 1958 or something but not back in the 80s. So your assumption that I made this up was wrong. But of course, you cannot be wrong, I forgot that. Maybe you were just 'inaccurate'. NO, I just think it is a common assumption and misperception that Christians who drink pass around and parrot from each other. They think they are being judged by other Christians, most of whom don't care one way or the other. Your assumption was wrong. Just admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think I need to mention that I do NOT think that being fat is a sin. I also do not hate fat people. It makes no difference to me how big someone is, other than I would try to help them. I have very good friends who are fat. The reason I posted this post: I was talking about those who have beliefs that are not stated explicitly in the Bible (such as complete abstinence from alcohol for everyone no matter what) but then don't follow principles that ARE stated explicitly in the Bible such as gluttony. I see this very often. Sorry if I offended anyone! It's interesting because I have only been a member of theologically conservative evangelical, "Bible Belt" churches all my life and I have never heard once, anyone judge people for drinking a glass of wine or having a social drink. I have never heard anyone claim that drinking a glass of champagne is a sin. So I think you are really projecting something on to others just to have something to complain about. From my experience some S. Baptist and Independent Baptist churches teach said doctrine. Or even Church of Christ... It's not uncommon in the Bible belt for people to claim that drinking alcohol is sin. God bless, GE Well that's where I live and I have never been told that drinking was sin, that only drunkness is a sin. That was stressed when I was in the youth groups and stuff. We were encouraged just to stay away from it, but were told that drunkness is what the Bible condemns. They may have taught it was sin back in 1958 or something but not back in the 80s. So your assumption that I made this up was wrong. But of course, you cannot be wrong, I forgot that. Maybe you were just 'inaccurate'. NO, I just think it is a common assumption and misperception that Christians who drink pass around and parrot from each other. They think they are being judged by other Christians, most of whom don't care one way or the other. Your assumption was wrong. Just admit it. No, you're the one making the assumption about other Christians and how they feel about drinking. I am saying that it is a wrong assumption on your part to assume that Christians are sitting around judging others for drinking while excusing pet sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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