How does the prophetic clock work in God's eyes?

[Guest]

The first to receive the gospel will be the last to to accept it....

 

in the final march and concerted effort in preaching the everlasting gospel for the last and final time....

 

before they are taken out by Satan and his wicked servants....

 

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The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. Joel 3:16

 

The LORD Jesus Takes Out Satan's Sock Puppets

 

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

 

His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

 

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Revelation 19:11-14

 

With The Same Voice

 

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

 

And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

 

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

 

That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. Revelation 19:15-18

 

That Created

 

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

 

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. Revelation 19:19-21

 

The Cosmos

 

By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Psalms 33:6

[Rant]

If you know prophecy a nation will be born in one day! that's when the clock started to tick! for the Generation that will not die.

[Guest]

If you know prophecy a nation will be born in one day! that's when the clock started to tick! for the Generation that will not die.

 

 

Tick Tock

 

Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Isaiah 66:8

 

Tick....

 

In Isaiah 66:7-8, the prophet foreshadowed the re-birth of Israel in 1948. Isaiah describes a woman giving birth before going into labor, and he speaks of a country being born in one day. This accurately describes what happened on May 14, 1948 - when the Jews declared independence for Israel as a united and sovereign nation for the first time in 2900 years.

 

During that same day, the United States issued a statement recognizing Israel’s sovereignty. And, only hours beforehand, a United Nations mandate expired, ending British control of the land. During a 24-hour span of time, foreign control of the land of Israel had formally ceased, and Israel had declared its independence, and its independence was acknowledged by other nations. Modern Israel was literally was born in a single day.

 

Isaiah said the birth would take place before there would be labor pains. And that too is precisely what happened. A movement called Zionism began in the 1800s to encourage Jews worldwide to move to Israel, which at that time was called Palestine. Within hours of the declaration of independence in 1948, Israel was attacked by the surrounding countries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

 

When reading Isaiah 66:7-8, keep in mind that Israel’s status as a sovereign nation was established and reaffirmed during the course of a single day, and that it was born of a movement called Zionism, and that its declaration of independence was not the result of a war but rather the cause of one. http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/Articles/1948PropheciesFulfilled.htm

[HappyFeet]

What are your thoughts on the prophetic clock coninciding with the Jewish Feast?

 

ex. Jesus came at feast of sukkot, died at passover, resurrected on first fruits...

[Guest]

What are your thoughts on the prophetic clock coninciding with the Jewish Feast?

 

ex. Jesus came at feast of sukkot, died at passover, resurrected on first fruits...

 

 

Amen~!

[Daniel 11:36]

The Lord's prophetic clock for us today that can be measured is given by the 70 weeks of years decreed for Israel [isaiah 11; Daniel 9:24-27]

 

The time lapsing of the clock began with the decree to return from the Babylonian captivity to re-build the city of Jerusalem [445 BC] .... stopped with the Lord's cutting off in 33 AD at the end of the 69th week .... and will resume again at the beginning of the 70th still pending

 

The resumption dating of the clock has not been revealed in scripture

[Guest]

The Lord's prophetic clock for us today that can be measured is given by the 70 weeks of years decreed for Israel [isaiah 11; Daniel 9:24-27]

 

The time lapsing of the clock began with the decree to return from the Babylonian captivity to re-build the city of Jerusalem [445 BC] .... stopped with the Lord's cutting off in 33 AD at the end of the 69th week .... and will resume again at the beginning of the 70th still pending

 

The resumption dating of the clock has not been revealed in scripture

 

 

Amen

 

Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Isaiah 66:8

 

And Amen

 

The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

 

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

 

And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. Zechariah 12:1-3

[SUS]

The blood moon thing that's happening right now also happened in 1948 and 1967

[WilliamL]

...when was Israel actually formed? I see three options.

 

1/ Israel was re-formed sometime in the late Nineteenth or early Twentieth Centuries. This is when Jews started coming back and rebuilding the nation. However we don't really have a specific date or year to work with here.

 

2/ 14th May 1948. This is when Israel was officially recognised as a country by the U.N. Historians view this date as the start of the new country. However our views may differ from the way God thinks.

 

3/ June 1967. At the end of the Six-day War, the Jews finally reclaimed Jerusalem as their own for the first time in around 1,900 years. It came into their possession and they also gained control of the Temple Mount. Is this really the time when new Israel was born?

The answer is not either/or, but all. This is because the restoration of the nation-state of Judah, as well as the nation-state of Israel, was a process that took place over time, as determined by the 7 Times prophecy of Leviticus 26. The following is derived from my book Sacred History, Sacred Times. It's a bit long, but meaty.

 

1. Leviticus 26:3-45 is a prophecy written by Moses to the Israelites. It contains both a blessing and a curse. In the blessing, God promised the Israelites that if they remained faithful to him and his commandments, he would multiply the harvests of their fields, and would give them peace in their lands and power over their enemies; and the Lord himself would walk among them.

     In the curse, however, God promised that if the Israelites forsook him and his commandments, he would set his face against them, destroy their harvests, and give them over to sickness, sorrow, death, and the hands of their enemies. This punishment was to be progressive. After the initial description of the punishment, each successive wave of woes is prefaced by the phrase "seven times...for your sins." This phrase is repeated fourfold, in verses 18, 21, 24, and 28. The final punishment of 7 times concludes with the curse, "I will make your cities waste...and I will bring the land into desolation...and I will scatter you among the heathen...and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. … Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land." Lev. 26:31-33, 38, 34

2. God also provided a remedy for his curse if the Israelites were to repent of their sins and return to God and his ways. This remedy is stated in Lev. 26:40f. and also Deut. 4:49f.: "But if from thence [among the nations] thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. When thou art in tribulation, and all these things [woes] are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the Lord thy God, and shall be obedient...he will not forsake thee..." "Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land. [However, t]he land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them; and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity..." Deut. 4:29-31; Lev. 26:42-43

3. This curse has been and is still being fulfilled, progressively. Both the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were progressively wasted and finally extinguished. The duration of their curse was to be for 7 times, which equal 2520 sacred years. The culmination of this curse has therefore taken place in modern times, "the latter days," beginning with the era of the (re)discovery of the Americas.

4. God's primary covenants with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob promised them three primary things:  1) "I will make of thee a great nation...to multiply as the stars of heaven...[and to] spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south"; 2) "...in thee and in they seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed"; 3) "[a]nd I will give unto thee, and to they seed after thee...all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God." Gen. 12:2-3; 26:3-4; 28:13-14; 17:8  These are the covenants that have been and are being progressively fulfilled in the latter days. According to my understanding, their ultimate fulfillment, or at least the fulfillment of the curse, will not be concluded until ca. 2057 AD.

[One sacred year-length was recognized throughout all of the ancient world. It consisted of precisely 360 days. The best review of the ancient use of the 360-day year is found in Immanuel Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision; New York, MacMillan, 1950: ch. 8, "The year of 360 Days," 330-59. Also see "Calendar"; Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, ed. James Hastings; N.Y.: Scribner's, 1921: vol. 3.

     This work uses the Mayan Long Count's reckoning of sacred years/tuns. The LC is the only calendar of the ancient day count that survived into modern times. "Mayan" in the title is actually a misnomer, because the LC long pre-dated the Mayan culture in Meso-America.]

Fulfillments of 7 Times

Aug. 8, 1878 Petach Tikvah was founded, the first latter-day Jewish agricultural settlement in Palestine. In 1879, it produced "the first Jewish harvest" in that land to be sold in Jerusalem "since the destruction of the Temple by the Romans" in 70 AD.¹  Three years later, in 1882 AD/5947 AM, the first large Aliyahs ("Ascents"/Returns) of Jews to their ancient homeland began.

    Seven times before 1878-79 AD, in 606 BC, the first dispersion of Jews from Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar took place. Apparently three years later, in 603 BC, Nebuchadnezzar sent the enemies of Judah against the land, by which substantial numbers of Jews began to be "removed." See 2 Kings 24:1-3; also Book 1, 602 BC Commentary.

     In sum, 7 times after the beginning of the final decline and dispersion of the Kingdom of Judah, the Jews began to regather and return to their ancient homeland.

     It's also significant that in 637 AD, exactly 3-1/2 times = 1260 sacred years after the Jews began to be dispersed and before they began to gather -- that is, in the very depths of God's curse -- Jerusalem fell to the forces of Islam.

Aug. 29, 1897 The First Zionist Congress convened in Basel, Switzerland. This congress was established to promote the return of the Jews to their ancient homeland. It was the first independent governing body by and for all of the Jews since 588 BC.

    Seven times earlier, in mid-588 BC, Jerusalem fell to Nebuchadnezzar, and the Kingdom of Judah was extinguished. The remnant of Jews who'd been allowed to remain in the land fled to Egypt in late 588 BC.

    In sum, independent Jewish self-government was restored exactly 7 times after it had been extinguished.

May 14, 1948 The Jews in Palestine proclaimed and established an independent state of Israel. This was made possible by the United Nations, which sanctioned the partition of Palestine into Jewish and Palestinian-Arab states on Nov. 29, 1947.

    Seven times earlier, in 538 BC, Babylon fell to King Cyrus of Persia, and the Babylonian Empire was thereafter broken up into provinces of the Medo-Persian Empire. In 537 BC, Jews were allowed to return to Judah and Jerusalem and establish their own vassal province.

    In sum, 7 times after the vassal province of Judah was established, the free state of Israel was founded. Both cases were separated by 70 sacred years from their respective initial events in 606 BC and 1878-79 AD. See ... Jer. 25:8-12.

June 5-10, 1967 The Six-Day War against Israel by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria took place. On June 7, the Jews recaptured the Temple Mount and the Old City of Jerusalem. This occurred 70 sacred years after the First Zionist Congress in 1897 AD.

    Seven times earlier, the Jews began to rebuild the Temple after God so commanded by the prophet Haggai in August or September 519 BC. It had been 70 sacred years since the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Babylonians in August 588 BC. In December or January 519/18 BC, God promised to begin again to bless the people. Hag. 2:10-19 This was 70 sacred years after the last remnant of the Jews had left Judah to go to Egypt in November or December 588 BC.

Sept. 4, 1999 The Israeli and Palestinian governments signed an agreement that committed both sides to a Final Status resolution of their issues by Sept. 2000. Chief among the disputes was that both claimed sovereignty over Jerusalem. Talks failed, and on Sept. 28, 2000, a violent conflict erupted on Jerusalem's Temple Mount. In this bitter conflict, the Jews have had the upper hand. They had inflicted far more casualties than suffered, and strengthened their control over Jerusalem and all of the land.

    Seven times earlier, "in the beginning of [the] reign" of Xerxes/Ahasuerus, 486 BC, adversaries of the Jews "wrote...[unto the king] an accusation against the inhabitants of Judah and Jerusalem." Ezra 4:6 Ahasuerus, dealing with other revolts in the Empire, sent Judah's adversaries to sack Jerusalem, burn the Temple, and kill and enslave Jews throughout the land. The Jews were accused because they had anointed a king over them, in defiance of the Empire.²

Oct. 5, 1927 – Sept. 28, 1928 Seven times before this year, Ezra received his commission from the king, and returned to Judah to establish the Law of Moses in the land.

July 28, 2040 – July 22, 2041 Seven times before this year, Nehemiah received his commission from the king, and returned to Jerusalem to rebuild it.

ca. 2056-57 This year apparently comes 7 times = 10 x 252 sacred years after the last event in the Tanach (Old Testament), when Nehemiah suddenly and unexpectedly returned to Jerusalem to purge the city and the Temple of the sins committed therein, ca. 428 BC. Malachi 3:1b-5ff.:

    [T]he Lord whom ye seek shall suddenly come to his Temple...and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. ... And I will come near to you to judgment...

     This year also comes 8 x 252 = 2016 sacred years after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD/4109 AM; and 16 x 252 = 4032 sacred years after the Battle of Nations in 1935 BC/2093 AM, at which time Jerusalem (Salem) is first mentioned in the Scriptures. Gen. 14:1f., 18

1. Meyer Levin, The Story of Israel; N.Y.: Putnam's, 1966: 48-49.

2. Julian Morgenstern, "Jerusalem -- 485 B.C."; Hebrew Union College Annual; vol. XXVII (1956): 101-79; XXVIII (1957): 15-47; XXXI (1960): 1-29. This conflict is described in Psalms 74 [see esp. vs. 8], 79, 83 [see esp. vs. 2-8], Lamentations, and elsewhere.