WHY DID GOD CREATE EVIL?

[Guest]

GOD created all living (created) things with free will, including the Angels. Just because GOD knew that Satan would turn evil, out of His immeasurable grace He had to let Satan make the choice. Just because GOD knows the beginning from the end doesn't mean that they don't have choices. Remember, GOD does not wish anyone to perish, yet we know that the majority of the people ever born have rejected His remedy for the sin problem. What love He has to allow us to make our own choice, even when He already knows what we will choose!

[OneLight]

Can anyone explain?

why did God create evil?

Is He not a good God?

Is He not love?

If you can explain this,then you are on strong meat.

You have been weaned from the breast.

 

jesse

Everything has to have something to compare it against. You can't have hot without cold, light without dark, love without hate, good without evil. That is basic life.

God created everything that was created, and focused everything according to choice. How could we chose good if we did not know what good was? God created what He created to share His complete love with us. He allows us to chose in this life which we will follow, allowing us to chose if we follow Him or not. God could of created everything to worship Him, but what is true love without having a choice not to love?

[Guest Jesse]

God knew,God knew the end from the beginning.

Why did He do it?

God also knew Eve would eat of the fruit.

Is the serpent not stronger than Adam and Eve?

Lucifer was the anointed cherub full of wisdom.

Adam and Eve were ignorant,dont even know what death is.

Its like a fifty year old tempting a five year old.

Here is one scripture for now.

Isaiah 45:7.I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace,I create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

 

jesse.

[OneLight]

God knew,God knew the end from the beginning.

Why did He do it?

Do what? If you are asking about evit still, I answered that question.

God also knew Eve would eat of the fruit.

Is the serpent not stronger than Adam and Eve?

No, just a convincing lying spirit.

Lucifer was the anointed cherub full of wisdom.

Adam and Eve were ignorant,dont even know what death is.

Its like a fifty year old tempting a five year old.

Here is one scripture for now.

Isaiah 45:7.I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace,I create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

 

jesse.

And the purpose for the last part is ... ?

[Guest Jesse]

 

God knew,God knew the end from the beginning.

Why did He do it?

Do what? If you are asking about evit still, I answered that question.

God also knew Eve would eat of the fruit.

Is the serpent not stronger than Adam and Eve?

No, just a convincing lying spirit.

Lucifer was the anointed cherub full of wisdom.

Adam and Eve were ignorant,dont even know what death is.

Its like a fifty year old tempting a five year old.

Here is one scripture for now.

Isaiah 45:7.I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace,I create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

 

jesse.

And the purpose for the last part is ... ?

 

Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil untill it's too late.True or false?

 

They have never seen Good, evil nor death,for all is perfect in the garden.

 

If God can not do evil;then he can not do everything.

 

jesse.

[other one]

Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil untill it's too late.True or false?

 

They have never seen Good, evil nor death,for all is perfect in the garden.

 

If God can not do evil;then he can not do everything.

 

jesse.

 

Actually good and evil existed in the Garden, they just didn't recognize it until they ate of the fruit.    Example:  they had been running around naked for some time and didn't  know it was not good.....    no one told them that it was bad to run around naked, they realized it on their own after eating......     the bad was there all along, but they didn't know it so were not liable for doing it..

After the fruit they knew it was wrong and took steps to cover themselves.

 

I say that the eating of the fruit did not bring sin into the world, but the knowledge of sin.......   which in reality made it where we have no excuse for we are responsible for our sin now.

but the sin existed before.

 

 

I think I would define "evil" before I started accusing God of doing it.

[Guest Jesse]

 

Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil untill it's too late.True or false?

 

They have never seen Good, evil nor death,for all is perfect in the garden.

 

If God can not do evil;then he can not do everything.

 

jesse.

 

Actually good and evil existed in the Garden, they just didn't recognize it until they ate of the fruit.    Example:  they had been running around naked for some time and didn't  know it was not good.....    no one told them that it was bad to run around naked, they realized it on their own after eating......     the bad was there all along, but they didn't know it so were not liable for doing it..

After the fruit they knew it was wrong and took steps to cover themselves.

 

I say that the eating of the fruit did not bring sin into the world, but the knowledge of sin.......   which in reality made it where we have no excuse for we are responsible for our sin now.

but the sin existed before.

 

 

I think I would define "evil" before I started accusing God of doing it.

 

So is love,existed before.

We now know what evil is,but Adam?

Evil is the breaking of God's commandments.

Sin is the transgression of the law.

No one can keep the law; break one law;guilty of all.

But through Jesus we have a chance.

 

Just a little glimpse:

 

Lucifer was already sinning in heaven before the earth was.

But in his hearth,he was gossiping amongst one third of the angels,in heaven. 

That sin must manifest itself,but can not be done amongst angels.

They could see him,and he can not opperate,because angels dont get sick,feel pain nor die.

 

jesse.

[other one]

 

 

Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil untill it's too late.True or false?

 

They have never seen Good, evil nor death,for all is perfect in the garden.

 

If God can not do evil;then he can not do everything.

 

jesse.

 

Actually good and evil existed in the Garden, they just didn't recognize it until they ate of the fruit.    Example:  they had been running around naked for some time and didn't  know it was not good.....    no one told them that it was bad to run around naked, they realized it on their own after eating......     the bad was there all along, but they didn't know it so were not liable for doing it..

After the fruit they knew it was wrong and took steps to cover themselves.

 

I say that the eating of the fruit did not bring sin into the world, but the knowledge of sin.......   which in reality made it where we have no excuse for we are responsible for our sin now.

but the sin existed before.

 

 

I think I would define "evil" before I started accusing God of doing it.

 

So is love,existed before.

We now know what evil is,but Adam?

Evil is the breaking of God's commandments.

Sin is the transgression of the law.

No one can keep the law; break one law;guilty of all.

But through Jesus we have a chance.

 

Just a little glimpse:

 

Lucifer was already sinning in heaven before the earth was.

But in his hearth,he was gossiping amongst one third of the angels,in heaven. 

That sin must manifest itself,but can not be done amongst angels.

They could see him,and he can not opperate,because angels dont get sick,feel pain nor die.

 

jesse.

 

 

Was Adam and Eve sinning by being naked???    

[Guest Jesse]

 

 

 

Adam and Eve did not know what is good and what is evil untill it's too late.True or false?

 

They have never seen Good, evil nor death,for all is perfect in the garden.

 

If God can not do evil;then he can not do everything.

 

jesse.

 

Actually good and evil existed in the Garden, they just didn't recognize it until they ate of the fruit.    Example:  they had been running around naked for some time and didn't  know it was not good.....    no one told them that it was bad to run around naked, they realized it on their own after eating......     the bad was there all along, but they didn't know it so were not liable for doing it..

After the fruit they knew it was wrong and took steps to cover themselves.

 

I say that the eating of the fruit did not bring sin into the world, but the knowledge of sin.......   which in reality made it where we have no excuse for we are responsible for our sin now.

but the sin existed before.

 

 

I think I would define "evil" before I started accusing God of doing it.

 

So is love,existed before.

We now know what evil is,but Adam?

Evil is the breaking of God's commandments.

Sin is the transgression of the law.

No one can keep the law; break one law;guilty of all.

But through Jesus we have a chance.

 

Just a little glimpse:

 

Lucifer was already sinning in heaven before the earth was.

But in his hearth,he was gossiping amongst one third of the angels,in heaven. 

That sin must manifest itself,but can not be done amongst angels.

They could see him,and he can not opperate,because angels dont get sick,feel pain nor die.

 

jesse.

 

 

Was Adam and Eve sinning by being naked???    

 

Otherone.

 

True; evil was there and love was there.

But Adam and Eve did not know it.

The big bully had tricked the woman first.

 

jesse.

[Salty]

It is impossible for evil to dwell with our Heavenly Father (Psalms 5:4).

 

What are we thinking, that evil will still exist in God's Eternity of the new heavens and a new earth? God forbid, no!

 

If there will be no evil dwelling with Him in the future Eternity, then how is it we think evil existed with Him before this world, i.e., before Satan rebelled against Him?

 

The Isaiah 45:7 verse is often mis-applied to all time, when it is specific to this present world. In this present world God uses Satan as a punishing rod upon the wicked (per Isa.10), and allows His saints to be tried by him (like Job). God during this present world will even use an evil spirit to trick the foolish and haughty (Judges 9:23).

 

Just because one of the laws of nature regarding this present world is the law of opposites, that does not mean it was a law of the old world before Satan rebelled against Him, nor a law of the world to come. Rebellion will not happen a second time (Nahum 1:9).

 

Thus it is a mistake to compare the things of this present world with the world to come, or with the world of old when Satan was once perfect in his ways following God before he rebelled.

 

"Well God had to have created evil since He already knows everything before it happens, and knew Satan would rebel", some will say.

 

Yet our Heavenly Father said He created Satan perfect in his ways, and not evil, but iniquity was found in him (Ezek.28). Thus Satan committed the very first 'sin' (1 John 3:8), was first to break God's law, and thus evil must be assigned to Satan, and not to our Heavenly Father.

 

So how will evil, sin, and even death no longer exist in God's future Eternal Kingdom? It's because Satan will be no more, for all those things are assigned to him, and will perish with him in the "lake of fire", and be no more.