We don't know if we're saved until we are judged?

[Guest His_Servant]

Hmmm...British Israelism...little gods? Sounds like they agree with Arnold Murray on some things, and he is definitely way out there with his views of the scriptures. It's so sad how some people can get mixed up in stuff like this, but thats all part of satan's plan....to destroy as many people as he can before his end....to take as many as possible with him.

This group sounds like a cult to me. I have to deal with family members (in laws) who are involved with a cult, and if your cousin is anything like them, he won't accept any piece of scripture you give him that goes against his beliefs. I pray that isn't how it is, however. If so, I suppose all we can do is pray for people like that, and talk to them whenever we can...whenever they will allow it. Never lose hope for him...never give up. God Bless.

[Catsmeow]

Matt 7:21-23

22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.'

[other one]

Matt 7:21-23

22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.'

[Arthur Durnan]

The cult of British-Israelism, of course, believes that Great Britain fulfills all the promises re the nation of Israel. Even more so, they think the Anglo-Saxon people constitute the Lost Ten Tribes. However, the Ten Tribes are NOT lost in that they themselves know where they are and will be revealed openly when the Messiah does indeed return. All Twelve Tribes of Israel have prominent roles to play in the coming Millennium.

British-Israelism is not nearly as popular today as it seemed to be when the British Empire was in full sway. False cults come & false cults go.

GOD BLESS THE USA!

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[Guest Joeri]

of course its quite clear not everyone who thinks theyre saved is saved. think about matthew 7 and 25 and the parable of the talents.

[Gerioke]

There are people who will come to you in the name of Jesus and tell you you've got it all wrong. I find myself flipflopping alot. It was really bad for me when people would give me these christian help books. For some reason I always wound up feeling worse than I did before I read them. My wife thinks I suffer from depression and that's why I can't stand firmly in my salvation. I know I have low self esteem and that could be why I can go from warm fuzzy safe in the Lords arms feelings to gloom and doom I think I'm gonna burn. I have learned to speak life for the most part but every now and then I revert.

God doesn't know evil.

[amazingrace]

There are people who will come to you in the name of Jesus and tell you you've got it all wrong. I find myself flipflopping alot. It was really bad for me when people would give me these christian help books. For some reason I always wound up feeling worse than I did before I read them. My wife thinks I suffer from depression and that's why I can't stand firmly in my salvation. I know I have low self esteem and that could be why I can go from warm fuzzy safe in the Lords arms feelings to gloom and doom I think I'm gonna burn. I have learned to speak life for the most part but every now and then I revert.

God doesn't know evil. 

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Worldy humanistic wisdom tells us that we have to have self esteem, that we have to love ourselves, but what does the Bible tell us? The Bible tells us to "enter into the joy of the Lord", and "...in lowliness of mind, let each esteem others better than themselves". Self esteem is self centered, but as Christians we are called to be Christ centered, and this is where our true hope, and our true joy is found. We must not beat ourselves up, nor should we let others undermine the security that God has given us in Christ. Satan knows he can't get us back from the promises of God, but what he can do, and is very good at, is take away our joy so that our witness and testimony is not shared with others.

[M45510G1C]

Matt 7:21-23

22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.' 

Just what is lawlessness?

What law is being referred to here?

[Dad Ernie]

There are people who will come to you in the name of Jesus and tell you you've got it all wrong. I find myself flipflopping alot. It was really bad for me when people would give me these christian help books. For some reason I always wound up feeling worse than I did before I read them. My wife thinks I suffer from depression and that's why I can't stand firmly in my salvation. I know I have low self esteem and that could be why I can go from warm fuzzy safe in the Lords arms feelings to gloom and doom I think I'm gonna burn. I have learned to speak life for the most part but every now and then I revert.

Greetings Gerioke,

I want you to memorize a couple verses:

Isaiah 26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Two simple verses to memorize. As you memorize them, place the EMPHASIS on each word and consider them carefully as you repeat these verses, i.e.:

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

and so on. You need to equip yourself with many verses in order to thwart the flaming arrows of the enemy. Just like Jesus responded to Satan in the desert. So study to show yourself approved.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[ann2]

I dony know all the verses that talk about salvation but one i base my being saved on is John 3:16 it cant get any better than that.