justfaith Posted October 21, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2014 The vast majority of people in our world today, who look for the return of the Redeemer as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, expect to be taken to heaven to spend a thousand years. Some of these expect to return to planet earth at the end of this millennium or some short period of time in heaven. Countless sermons have been preached, all exhorting the "faithful" about this great expectation. Those who teach otherwise are dismissed as weird or false. But what does the bible teach ? Has heaven been promised to redeemed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted October 21, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.22 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2014 Some say there is no heaven, others say you enter "Atman", some say we go to Nirvana, others call it Elysium, yet some say we keep doing this life over and over again until we get it right. So what? There is only one truth, and that is when those who die in Christ, go to be with Him. What do you say? You never mentioned that ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted October 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 269 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,243 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,521 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hi justfaith, You have hit on one of the last great truths the Body of Christ has to understand & overcome the false teaching. So look into it very carefully. Here are some of my thoughts with scripture. What is our calling? `Therefore holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling..` (Heb. 3: 1) What is our hope? `We give thanks......because of the hope laid up for you in heaven,..` (Col. 1: 5) Where is our citizenship? `For our citizenship is in heaven,....` (Phil. 3: 20) Where is our new body? `For indeed in this house (body) we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from heaven.` (2 Cor. 5: 2) WHAT IS THIS NEW BODY LIKE? It is like Christ. `We know that when He appears, we shall be like Him...` (1 John 3: 2) `God...also predestined (us) to become conformed to the image of His Son.` (Rom. 8: 29) It has a divine nature. `For He (God) has granted ....that you might become partakers of the divine nature,...` (2 Peter 1: 4) It is imperishable. `For this perishable must put on the imperishable...` (1 Cor. 15: 53) It is immortal. `and this mortal must put on immortality.` (1 Cor. 15: 53) It can go through different dimensions. `And their eyes were opened & they recognised Him; & he vanished from their sight.` (Luke 24: 31) As the Apostle Paul warns us - `Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize... & not holding fast to the Head - Christ.` (Col. 2: 18 & 19) `I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call / on top calling of God in Christ Jesus.` (Phil. 3: 14) Blessings, Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2014 You all can go where you want...... I'm going here (assuming he lets me) Rev 21:1-4 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He shall dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be among them, 4 and He shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there shall no longer be any death; NASB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted October 21, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yep other one, what most people consider "Heaven" is coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 22, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 909 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,657 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,839 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2014 The Bible teaches that the present earth and heaven(s) that now exist will b destroyed. And a new heaven and new earth (heaven-earth) will take their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted October 22, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.61 Reputation: 27,842 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2014 Blessings justfaith.... The Word of God tells us we will enter into Gods Kingdom,,,,,,yes,a new Heaven & a new earth as others have said & other one posted the beautiful description we are given in Revelation,,,,,,we will be WITH God,WOW! That is more than I could ever dream of & surely it will be beyond our greatest expectations as Paul calls it "our Prize"....Glory to God I just want to add that I really love to hear the many stories told by people who have clinically & biologically died & then return to their bodies to live to tell us where they claim to have been & what they claim they have seen...........can they all be making it up,all of them ? Their stories are all very similar,some stand before the gates of Heaven while others enter in the front courts & they can barely describe what they say they have seen because there is nothing they have ever seen to compare it to,,,,,,,brilliant Light that embraces them yet it is not hot,colors beyond their wildest imagination,spirit bodies that are ageless,genderless,colorless.........they feel no weight of their own bodies,they experience infinity in just moments and then those that try to describe Jesus........Love,Peace,Joy.............& they just had a little glimpse and they are changed forever by this brief journey........................Gods Glory,Him......the Great I Am........."HOME"...... Well,not that these claims are necessary (for me)to confirm what God has told us about Heaven but it is lovely to delight in these peoples Joy......................anyway,this is what came to mind & I wanted to share that,an amazing testimony is by a Mr.Howard Pittman.......anything outside of the Scriptures should always be tried & tested,pray always for discernment & remember Gods Word is Authority.,His Timeless Truth ........ With love,in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 22, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2014 I would just say that to me it doesn't really matter where we go as long as it is with Him/Hims.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfaith Posted October 22, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 The Bible teaches that the present earth and heaven(s) that now exist will b destroyed. And a new heaven and new earth (heaven-earth) will take their place. All the heavens will be destroyed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 22, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2014 The Bible teaches that the present earth and heaven(s) that now exist will b destroyed. And a new heaven and new earth (heaven-earth) will take their place. All the heavens will be destroyed ? If God is coming here with new Jerusalem, what use is the old heaven or heavens, would it not be empty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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