Is Today, The Prophecy Of Iron & Clay ?

[other one]

So how is the kingdom of God on earth going to break in pieces and consume the Metalic Image(Muslim World ??) by Military(Crusaders) or is it by conversions ?

 

When will God's Kingdom do this ? 

When the seventh trumpet is blown and Jesus returns to earth and violently takes the earthly kingdom from Satan and his hoard.

[Bible_Gazer]

So God's Kingdom people won't do anything toward the enemies ? 

[other one]

So God's Kingdom people won't do anything toward the enemies ? 

who are Gods kingdom people?

[Bible_Gazer]

Dan.2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a Kingdom,

which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people,

but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms,

and it shall stand for ever.

 

Seem to read that God will have a natural Kingdom before  the last Metalic kingdoms(The Iron and clay) is destroyed.

They seem to come against the Beast by condemning it.

 

So his Kingdom would be the church converted Jews.

As we read in Ezek.36 he will restore the land Israel in a great way, including converting Jews to Christ.

And deal with Gog and Magog Ezek.39. Which I think is the same group of the Iron and Clay kingdom.

 

 

 

[Guest]

So God's Kingdom people won't do anything toward the enemies ? 

 

 

You Bet~!

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

 

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

 

Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

 

Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Ephesians 6:10-18

[RevelationWriter]

- Dan.2:44 = Rev.20

[Marilyn C]

Amen, Joe. So very, very, true.

 

Blessings, Marilyn.

 

 

Also, agree Revelationwriter.

 

Blessings, Marilyn.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Marilyn C

[Serving]

Look at it like this...

 

The Lord returned in the days (lifetimes) of those kings who joined in alliance with the false prophet, and the Lord destroyed them with the sword of His mouth.

 

And in those days the Lord set up a kingdom and took direct control over planet earth.

 

That's all it's saying.

 

Don't forget, the Lord will establish His rule in ONE DAY.

 

And these kings will still be alive (those days) to see the Lord coming in the clouds for themselves.

 

In those days..

 

Still future.

 

Near future.

[Last Daze]

Look at it like this...

 

The Lord returned in the days (lifetimes) of those kings who joined in alliance with the false prophet, and the Lord destroyed them with the sword of His mouth.

 

And in those days the Lord set up a kingdom and took direct control over planet earth.

 

That's all it's saying.

 

Don't forget, the Lord will establish His rule in ONE DAY.

 

And these kings will still be alive (those days) to see the Lord coming in the clouds for themselves.

 

In those days..

 

Still future.

 

Near future.

 

I'm guessing that you're referencing this from Daniel:

 

You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

 

In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.  Daniel 2:34-35,44

 

Why do you think that "those kings" is a reference to those who joined in alliance with the false prophet?  Wouldn't "those" be a reference to something previously mentioned as kings in the prophecy?

 

I agree that the false prophet (and the unseen fallen angels) will cause the kings of the earth to gather, and that the Lord will destroy them and set up His kingdom:

 

And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.  Revelation 16:13-14

 

And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone. And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.  Revelation 19:19-21

 

 

But I don't think that Daniel 2's "those kings" is a reference to those who joined in alliance with the false prophet.  It might seem like a trivial distinction to make but there is more to the kingdoms of Daniel 2 than what meets the eye.

[Serving]

 

Look at it like this...

 

The Lord returned in the days (lifetimes) of those kings who joined in alliance with the false prophet, and the Lord destroyed them with the sword of His mouth.

 

And in those days the Lord set up a kingdom and took direct control over planet earth.

 

That's all it's saying.

 

Don't forget, the Lord will establish His rule in ONE DAY.

 

And these kings will still be alive (those days) to see the Lord coming in the clouds for themselves.

 

In those days..

 

Still future.

 

Near future.

 

I'm guessing that you're referencing this from Daniel:

 

You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

 

In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.  Daniel 2:34-35,44

 

Why do you think that "those kings" is a reference to those who joined in alliance with the false prophet?  Wouldn't "those" be a reference to something previously mentioned as kings in the prophecy?

 

I agree that the false prophet (and the unseen fallen angels) will cause the kings of the earth to gather, and that the Lord will destroy them and set up His kingdom:

 

And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.  Revelation 16:13-14

 

And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone. And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.  Revelation 19:19-21

 

 

But I don't think that Daniel 2's "those kings" is a reference to those who joined in alliance with the false prophet.  It might seem like a trivial distinction to make but there is more to the kingdoms of Daniel 2 than what meets the eye.

 

 

Here is where "these kings" are:

 

Daniel 2:

 

⁴¹And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

 

 

⁴²And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

 

 

⁴³And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

 

 

⁴⁴And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

 

 

⁴⁵Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

 

 

Notice it is the feet & 10 toes that are being explained?

 

Remember that the false prophet comes up amongst 10 kings?

 

The 10 kings are the 10 toes.

 

And they receive power and a kingdom one hour with the beast.

 

This is clearly the toe period of the statue, since the toes are the last protrusions of the image before it is destroyed by Christ.

 

Thus it is during the days of "these kings" that God sets up His kingdom.

 

Babylon the great must be destroyed and Satan's empire overthrown before the Lord literally sets up His kingdom on earth.

 

Cheers.