Dying Words...

[Budman]

I was surfing the web and I came across the last, dying words of some famous atheists.

Read on.....it's chilling.

Thomas Hobbs: --- "I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day! I am about to take a leap into the dark!"

Edward Gibbon: --- "All is lost, finally, irrevocable lost. All is dark and doubtful!"

Thomas Payne: --- "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone...O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? I would give worlds, if I had them, if The Age of Reason had never been published!"

Honore Gabriel Raqueti Mirabeau: --- "My sufferings are intolerable; I have within me a hundred years of life but not a moment's courage. Give me more laudanum (mixture containing opium) that I may not think of eternity and what is to come!"

Sir Thomas Scott: --- "Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty!"

Voltaire: --- "I am abandoned by God and man; I will give you half of what I am worth if you will give me six months' life." (He said this to Dr. Fochin, who told him it could not be done.) "Then I shall die and go to hell!"

Sir Francis Newport: --- "Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell! Oh, eternity forever and forever!"

Charles Churchill: --- "What a fool I have been!"

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It is just so very sad. What a terrible thing it is to die without Christ.

warm regards

-bud

[hmh]

Amazing how all of their lives they denied that God existed until death was standing at their beds.

[UndecidedFrog]

This is just my opinion. You don't have to accept it if you dislike it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

Yes, how sad it is to live your life in a rational manner, only to allow fear of the unknown overcome it in the last moments. I guess if these are true, they are not TRUE atheists...

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

[Budman]

Hi UF,

I just wanted to say, if we Christians are wrong, we lose nothing at death. At least we went to our graves with hope.

But if we are right, we gain joy everlasting.

If you are right, you also lose nothing.

But if you are wrong, you lose everything.

warm regards

-bud

[RustyAngeL]

Yes these words are chilling. I agree with my brother bud, if we go to our graves as believers and find there is nothing we loose nothing. But on the other hand if it is all true then we gain eternal life with Christ and the unbeliever looses everything. I have often wondered what Madalian Murray O'Hare's (the atheist who had prayer removed from schools in the mid 60's) what her last thoughts were before death. She was kidnapped along with some atheist family members and murdered. It there was no repentance before death then she surely knows now there is a God. How sad, it's to late.

Edited January 12, 2005 by Rustyangel

[refugepsa91]

Hi UF,

I just wanted to say, if we Christians are wrong, we lose nothing at death. At least we went to our graves with hope.

But if we are right, we gain joy everlasting.

If you are right, you also lose nothing.

But if you are wrong, you lose everything.

warm regards

-bud

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ah-just about what I was thinking. Although you probably said it better than I could have.

Love and Blessings,

Angel

[Guest shiloh357]

Hi UF,

I just wanted to say, if we Christians are wrong, we lose nothing at death. At least we went to our graves with hope.

But if we are right, we gain joy everlasting.

If you are right, you also lose nothing.

But if you are wrong, you lose everything.

warm regards

-bud

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yep, its the atheists that are taking the gamble, not us.

[UndecidedFrog]

Dear Budman, Rustyangel, refugepsa91, and shiloh357,

This is just my opinion. You don't have to accept it if you dislike it. DISCLAIMER: I am not a christian.

Thank you for your similar responses. You all brought up what is traditional called Pascal's wager. However, there is a large problem with your argument. Some of them are:

1) If the christian god is not the real god, christians would not get their reward, and would probably be punished to a greater extent for worshipping the incorrect god. Whereas the atheist, who does not worship any god would get better treatment at least for not worshipping the incorrect god.

With over 10,000 gods from which to choose, I think it is the believers who choose only one that are gambling.

2) Imagine a god that in omniscient who knows that some believers only believe for fear of the afterlife. What do you think such a god would do to these "believers?" Is it so easy to game the system?

For those of you who have more of a mathematical. logical and scientific bent, please refer to:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/

This site give the complete debunking of the argument.

I have often wondered what Madalian Murray O'Hare's (the atheist who had prayer removed from schools in the mid 60's) what her last thoughts were before death. She was kidnapped along with some atheist family members and murdered. It there was no repentance before death then she surely knows now there is a God. How sad, it's to late.

Dear Rustyangel,

I don't know what a person thinks just before they die. I hope most people meet death in a dignified way that honors the deeds of their life.

I think it a shameful act to kidnap and murder fellow human beings, regardless of their beliefs or disbeliefs. I am saddened that somebody kidnapped and killed another because of difference in belief/disbelief. It is an example of very bad behaviour that was probable fueled by the murderer's beliefs.

I sincerely hope that you will join me in condemning such barbarous behaviour to fellow humans regardless of their beliefs/disbeliefs.

Regards,

UndecidedFrog

[uvn477]

I used to be just like you Undecided that it made me smile when I read your argument. You say that atheists would be treated better off than one's that worship false gods. In my studies, I have found in fact that there is no discrimination between the treatment of atheists and false worshippers. This is for all religions with the concept of heaven and hell. There are only two categories, believers and nonbelievers. I hope one day you will fit into the first one.

As for those believers who believe only because of the afterlife. Well it seems to me that these atheists up top only began to believe because they feared. If they truly are believers they have nothing to fear. For they know they are saved and God will never allow Satan to touch their souls.

You mention there are over 10,000 gods to choose from. Atheists would say there are inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible. Yet I tell you now, those people have never read the Bible cover to cover. They probably have never read past 3 verses. Our God is consistent and to be honest I find he is the only consistent God. This level of consistency between thousands of years has led some to believe the Bible was written by one person and one time. Well we know thats not true. I could go on forever with this subject so I'll let you think about the consistency aspect.

As for those who kill in the name of religion, they are terrorists. Whether you are Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or any other, you are a terrorist. The shedding of innocent blood is always a sin and God will turn his back on what you claim to do in his name. There is no way to sin for the Lord.

[larryt]

Hi UF,

What you read in the OP is just what the bible says will happen to the ungodly.

Pr 29:1