Southern Baptists call for integrated churches

[Guest]

from Yahoo News:

 

"Leaders in nation's largest Protestant denomination are preaching that integrated churches can be a key driver of racial justice in society. But that could be a hard sell to those sitting in Southern Baptist Convention congregations...."

http://news.yahoo.com/southern-baptist-leaders-call-integrated-churches-153945214.html

 

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" As in the days of Noah... "

 

 

Sons Of Adam

 

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:35

 

And Daughters Of Eve

 

The singers went before, the players on instruments followed after; among them were the damsels playing with timbrels.

 

Bless ye God in the congregations, even the Lord, from the fountain of Israel. Psalms 68:25-26

 

And All God's Children Say, Amen~!

 

Blessed are the peacemakers:

 

for they shall be called the children of God. Matthew 5:9

[Qnts2]

I grew up Southern Baptist, a denomination that came about because white people didn't want black people in their churches back around the time of the American Civil War. As a child I got to see the face of racism in the church when a Girl Scout troop that included black members visited our church for some special event, and certain members raised Cain about having those girls in their church!

 

So if the Southern Baptist church as a whole is ready to stop excluding non-whites from their church, I'm glad to see it.

 

Thanks for explaining. I did not understand what they were trying to do. While people from differing backgrounds attending the same church can be a very nice fellowship, at the same time, I understand differing groups of people chosing to worship with those of the same background.

 

Different cultures are more comfortable in a church of their own culture, music, ettiquete, language expressions, etc. I like Hebraic style music, and really really dislike jazz or blues. I never thought going to a church with different music would bother me, until I went to a church which only played jazz. Their worship with music lasted for 45 minutes, and it was absolutely miserable for me. So much so, that for the first time, I left a church with music being one of the reasons. (My husband said that when the saxophone played, it sounded more like someone was trying to strangle a goose.)  

 

But, if the SBC has a history of racial division, then ending the separatism and setting policies to end separatism, is a good idea.

[Fez]

 

I grew up Southern Baptist, a denomination that came about because white people didn't want black people in their churches back around the time of the American Civil War. As a child I got to see the face of racism in the church when a Girl Scout troop that included black members visited our church for some special event, and certain members raised Cain about having those girls in their church!

 

So if the Southern Baptist church as a whole is ready to stop excluding non-whites from their church, I'm glad to see it.

 

Thanks for explaining. I did not understand what they were trying to do. While people from differing backgrounds attending the same church can be a very nice fellowship, at the same time, I understand differing groups of people chosing to worship with those of the same background.

 

Different cultures are more comfortable in a church of their own culture, music, ettiquete, language expressions, etc. I like Hebraic style music, and really really dislike jazz or blues. I never thought going to a church with different music would bother me, until I went to a church which only played jazz. Their worship with music lasted for 45 minutes, and it was absolutely miserable for me. So much so, that for the first time, I left a church with music being one of the reasons. (My husband said that when the saxophone played, it sounded more like someone was trying to strangle a goose.)  

 

But, if the SBC has a history of racial division, then ending the separatism and setting policies to end separatism, is a good idea.

 

I don't see the problem in my church. We have white and black members and sing worship songs in English and Zulu (the Zulu is up on the screen and has English  interpretation under it, but we sing in Zulu).

[Qnts2]

 

I don't see the problem in my church. We have white and black members and sing worship songs in English and Zulu (the Zulu is up on the screen and has English  interpretation under it, but we sing in Zulu).

 

 

 

 

Fez, that sounds very nice. Does everyone in South Africa know Zulu?

[Will M]

I don't know.

Is Jesus white?

I have not seen Him yet but I suspect He is not white. Being where He is from He may be but I think it would be more dark than white.

Do the color of skin have anything to do with anything at all, except that it is something people use to feel superior over another.

blue yellow green  whatever they all are humans who need blood to live and all have eyes to see, noses to smell mouths to speak and eat with etc.

I don't think there should ever have been any kind of segregation in the first place and according to the Word either does it.

 

To the fellow Cyrus who mentioned the days of Noah, Jesus in context was speaking of Just as the days of Jonah not Noah, easy mistake.

was in the belly of the whale for 3 days and nights so shall the Son of man be.

 

Not really anything to do with the sign of the end it was pertaining to Him being crucified. That will be the sign.

Anyhow I have been in a few of these threads and if this place is just about debating and arguing with each other I don't think it is a place I wish to fellowship in. 

Very sad to see this stuff.

 

God bless you as you continue to seek Him

-Will

 

Edited because I posted something unrelated

Edited January 31, 2015 by Will M

[ayin jade]

I don't know.

Is Jesus white?

I have not seen Him yet but I suspect He is not white. Being where He is from He may be but I think it would be more dark than white.

Do the color of skin have anything to do with anything at all, except that it is something people use to feel superior over another.

blue yellow green  whatever they all are humans who need blood to live and all have eyes to see, noses to smell mouths to speak and eat with etc.

I don't think there should ever have been any kind of segregation in the first place and according to the Word either does it.

 

To the fellow Cyrus who mentioned the days of Noah, Jesus in context was speaking of Just as the days of Jonah not Noah, easy mistake.

was in the belly of the whale for 3 days and nights so shall the Son of man be.

 

Not really anything to do with the sign of the end it was pertaining to Him being crucified. That will be the sign.

Anyhow I have been in a few of these threads and if this place is just about debating and arguing with each other I don't think it is a place I wish to fellowship in. 

Very sad to see this stuff.

 

God bless you as you continue to seek Him

-Will

 

Edited because I posted something unrelated

 

 

Jesus mentioned being in the earth as jonah was in the belly of the fish, but He also talked of things being as in the days of noah before God destroyed the earth with a flood. 

 

As for Jesus being white, I highly doubt anyone here thinks He was. We all know He was Jewish. He looked like other Jews from that area. So what lol. Color is meaningless to the Lord.

[rightontime]

I believe the Southern Baptists have a racist past. I read that Southern Baptists who kept slaves were not allowed to be missionaries and eventually the northern and southern Baptists separated. I think they are just trying to right some past injustices.

http://www.abc-usa.org/what_we_believe/our-history/

Origins of American Baptist Organization

The issue of slavery reached a peak in 1845 when the American Baptist Foreign Mission Society determined that it could not appoint any candidate for service who held slaves and when the American Baptist Home Mission Society decided separate northern and southern conventions were necessary. The Southern Baptist Convention was formed in response.

Northern Baptists remained organized as a group of societies until 1907, when the Northern Baptist Convention was formed to structure coordination of the societies’ work while maintaining the autonomy of constituent churches.

[Will M]

Hi Ayin,

 

You in speaking about Jesus heritage missed my point it seems.

Obviously the people who think segregation was right also claim to worship Jesus, who is not white

 

Right the sign of Noah is when the earth is as it was full of all kinds of evils, then Jesus will come back.

 

I just don't see how segregation and integration should even be an issue let alone a publicized one. Seems sad. Especially when Jesus Himself is not white.

Jews can be white so that comment really doesn't mean anything, but that was my point they think He is white which is oxymoronic in itself, being as you elude to everyone knows he is not. Well. I just said I don't know. So not everyone. 

 

Thanks for the correction I did seem to misunderstand:)

-Will

Edited January 31, 2015 by Will M

[Guest shiloh357]

I think it needs bearing out that slavery was not a Baptist thing.   Slavery had nothing to do with being Baptist.  It had to do with being southern.   There were Methodist and Catholic slave owners, as well in the south.

[Guest]

I don't know.

Is Jesus white?

I have not seen Him yet but I suspect He is not white. Being where He is from He may be but I think it would be more dark than white.

Do the color of skin have anything to do with anything at all, except that it is something people use to feel superior over another.

blue yellow green  whatever they all are humans who need blood to live and all have eyes to see, noses to smell mouths to speak and eat with etc.

I don't think there should ever have been any kind of segregation in the first place and according to the Word either does it.

 

To the fellow Cyrus who mentioned the days of Noah, Jesus in context was speaking of Just as the days of Jonah not Noah, easy mistake.

was in the belly of the whale for 3 days and nights so shall the Son of man be.

 

Not really anything to do with the sign of the end it was pertaining to Him being crucified. That will be the sign.

Anyhow I have been in a few of these threads and if this place is just about debating and arguing with each other I don't think it is a place I wish to fellowship in. 

Very sad to see this stuff.

 

God bless you as you continue to seek Him....

 

Jesus mentioned being in the earth as jonah was in the belly of the fish, but He also talked of things being as in the days of noah before God destroyed the earth with a flood. 

 

As for Jesus being white, I highly doubt anyone here thinks He was. We all know He was Jewish. He looked like other Jews from that area. So what lol. Color is meaningless to the Lord.

 

 

My LORD

 

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:28

 

And My God Is Forever A Jew

 

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

 

Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. Matthew 2:1-2

 

And As For Red And Yellow, Black And White

 

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7

 

We Are All Sons Of Adam And Daughters Of Eve

 

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

 

And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

 

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

 

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Genesis 2:21-24

 

And We Are Indeed Precious

 

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

 

In His Sight

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

 

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

 

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

 

Love, Your Brother Joe