Divine Healing

[Floatingaxe]

 

 

Floatingaxe, the question is whether or not it is God's will to divinely heal every believer in THIS life.   We will get new bodies in heaven, but that is not the issue.   The Bible doesn't promise that God will heal 100% of the time when asked.

 

Yet everyone who came to Jesus for healing received it! God never says no to healing His children. Healer is His name, just as it is Saviour. Does He refuse salvation to people according to His will?

 

The difference is that salvation is promised to everyone who wants it.    Healing is not promised to everyone.   Jesus' healing ministry was to confirm his message.  Same with the apostles.  

That's why you don't see everyone in Acts with a healing ministry, only the apostles and two deacons.

 

 

Healing is ours in the atonement. If we have salvation, we also have healing. Healing is not a "ministry". It is something we all have already, in our born again spirits. Healing is a mark of the believer.

[Guest shiloh357]

Healing is not in the atonement.  The NT makes no such claims

[Joshua-777]

 

Floatingaxe, the question is whether or not it is God's will to divinely heal every believer in THIS life.   We will get new bodies in heaven, but that is not the issue.   The Bible doesn't promise that God will heal 100% of the time when asked.

 

Yet everyone who came to Jesus for healing received it! God never says no to healing His children. Healer is His name, just as it is Saviour. Does He refuse salvation to people according to His will?

 

[Guest shiloh357]

Let me ask you a question.   The man at the gate called "Beautiful"  in Acts....     Jesus passed by that man every day during his ministry.  Why didn't he heal him?

[Ezra]

Healing is not in the atonement.  The NT makes no such claims

Indeed it does.  How could healing not be in the atonement, when Scripture specifically says so (Mt 8:14-18):

¹⁴ And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

¹⁵ And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them.

¹⁶ When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

¹⁷ That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

¹⁸ Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.

 

Matthew is referring to Isa 53:4 which says:

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.  It is the Holy Spirit who amplies this is Matthew's Gospel.

 

It is a dangerous thing to deny what Scripture affirms.  The Bible is crystal clear that sickness, disease, and demonic possession are all consequences of sin, and Christ "took away the sin of the world" (Jn 1:29).

[Guest shiloh357]

 

Healing is not in the atonement.  The NT makes no such claims

Indeed it does.  How could healing not be in the atonement, when Scripture specifically says so (Mt 8:14-18):

¹⁴ And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

¹⁵ And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them.

¹⁶ When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

¹⁷ That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

¹⁸ Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.

 

Matthew is referring to Isa 53:4 which says:

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.  It is the Holy Spirit who amplies this is Matthew's Gospel.

 

It is a dangerous thing to deny what Scripture affirms.  The Bible is crystal clear that sickness, disease, and demonic possession are all consequences of sin, and Christ "took away the sin of the world" (Jn 1:29).

 

Matthew 8:17  tells us that Isa. 53:4 was fulfilled in Jesus' healing ministry, not on the cross.   Read your Bible.

 

The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross redeemed us from the curse of the law (spiritual death)    Sickness and disease stems from the curse of the fall which we will not free from until we receive our glorified bodies.    So until we have our glorified bodies, ALL of us, will get sick and all of us will die at some point.

 

God has never promised that everyone who prays for healing will get healed and there is nothing in the NT that says healing is in the atonement.

[Guest shiloh357]

Let me ask you a question.   The man at the gate called "Beautiful"  in Acts....     Jesus passed by that man every day during his ministry.  Why didn't he heal him?

Edited to add:

 

In John 5:1-9, there was a multitude (v. 3)  of invalids in need of healing at the pool of Bethesda...   why did Jesus choose to only heal one of them???

[Floatingaxe]

Let me ask you a question.   The man at the gate called "Beautiful"  in Acts....     Jesus passed by that man every day during his ministry.  Why didn't he heal him?

 

Jesus passed by many people who were sickly and poor. Did any of them approach Jesus or speak up to Jesus in faith and were NOT healed? No. Jesus healed all who besought Him for a touch of healing.

[Floatingaxe]

 

 

Healing is not in the atonement.  The NT makes no such claims

Indeed it does.  How could healing not be in the atonement, when Scripture specifically says so (Mt 8:14-18):

¹⁴ And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

¹⁵ And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them.

¹⁶ When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:

¹⁷ That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

¹⁸ Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.

 

Matthew is referring to Isa 53:4 which says:

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.  It is the Holy Spirit who amplies this is Matthew's Gospel.

 

It is a dangerous thing to deny what Scripture affirms.  The Bible is crystal clear that sickness, disease, and demonic possession are all consequences of sin, and Christ "took away the sin of the world" (Jn 1:29).

 

Matthew 8:17  tells us that Isa. 53:4 was fulfilled in Jesus' healing ministry, not on the cross.   Read your Bible.

 

The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross redeemed us from the curse of the law (spiritual death)    Sickness and disease stems from the curse of the fall which we will not free from until we receive our glorified bodies.    So until we have our glorified bodies, ALL of us, will get sick and all of us will die at some point.

 

God has never promised that everyone who prays for healing will get healed and there is nothing in the NT that says healing is in the atonement.

 

 

Sickness and disease is part of the curse. He says He heals ALL our diseases.

 

Psalms 103:3 (AMP)

Who forgives [every one of] all your iniquities, Who heals [each one of] all your diseases,

[Retrobyter]

Shalom, shiloh357.

 

 

Let me ask you a question.   The man at the gate called "Beautiful"  in Acts....     Jesus passed by that man every day during his ministry.  Why didn't he heal him?

Edited to add:

 

In John 5:1-9, there was a multitude (v. 3)  of invalids in need of healing at the pool of Bethesda...   why did Jesus choose to only heal one of them???

 

 

You’ve stepped off the edge into uncharted waters. Who says that the healing of which we are told in the Scriptures are all the healing that Yeshua` performed through God’s power?

 

John 21:25

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

KJV

 

Do not make assumptions that cannot be supported. You DON’T KNOW that this was the “only one so healed!” And, as for the one laid at the gate called “Beautiful,” we may also speculate that Yeshua` left this one for Kefa and Yochanan to heal, on purpose!

 

And while we’re speculating, who says this man was laid at the gate during Yeshua`s time? Maybe they only just started laying him there!