A healthy Marriage poem

[ayin jade]

James 1

14 But each one is tempted by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them .
15 Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin. And sin, when it is fully formed, brings forth death.

[ayin jade]

Adam tried to blame eve and God for that matter for his act of sin. God had none of that and put the blame on adam.

 

Still today people try to blame others for their poor choices. Take responsibility for your own actions. For your own sins.

[Openly Curious]

Sorry, forgive my bluntness Brother,  but what you said seems to be a bit biased , self-serving view and not at all Biblical.  Imho, it is NOT at all what it says in that verse. What you wrote gives it your own "spin" and sounds like it is warning the wife for depriving the husband of love aka sex because it will cause the husband to sin.  It does not say that.  

 

What is expressed in your post uses this scripture like it is an excuse to  commit adultery and not to take responsibility for the "husband's" own "lack of  self-control" if he allows himself to succumb to Satan's temptation.  Btw,  I refer to "husband" only as that was how you wrote it.  This verse applies to a married couple equally,  both the man and the wife.  It does not single out one specific gender. 

 

Either spouse can be guilty of sexual or emotional adultery and breaking their marital vows.  It says (NASB)  "Stop depriving one another..."   I am sure there are an equal amount of marriages where the husband withholds his expression of love and intimacy towards the wife leaving her feeling abandoned and lonely.  These situations really don't happen over night but happen layer by layer and the sooner the couple can address it with  loving communication the bond will stay strong.

 

 1Corinthians 7:5

"Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not temp you because of your lack of self-control."

 

So , I get from this that this "deprivation or withholding of sexual intimacy"  should be done only by mutual agreement and only for the purpose that the couple can devote themselves to prayer.

 

Marriage is a difficult path that potentially can bring with it happiness but also poses a set of challenges. A successful marital relationship requires personal sacrifice, conciliation, forgiveness, compassion, unselfishness, humor, kindness, loyalty, friendship, commitment, energy, honesty, sincerity, fidelity,  hard work, lightness, and communication..and should be a prayerful God centered union with Christ as it's headship.

If there is a problem with the couple's sexual intimacy it definitely needs to be addressed in prayer and through words to uncover what is the underlying issue that has caused the one spouse to withdraw from this intimacy.

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well said and spot on

[Openly Curious]

And this is not, “an excuse for sin”!  It is clearly and repeatedly stated in the Bible, that this is a “cause of sin”!

Spouses are not to withold sex within the marriage as scripture states the reason why as has already been addressed by some in the thread.

But the scriptures DO NOT SAY that witholding sex from your spouse is a "cause of sin". Instead scripture instructs those who are married not to withold sex from one another as "Satan would bring TEMPTATION" to both spouses within this area. Not just temptation to the husbands but also temptation for the wives as both are being deprived if they withold sex from the other. It does not cause sin "it causes temptations" that would not other wise be there if they wasn't witholding sex. But just because there is temptation you do not have to give into those temptations but can say NO to them. Finding yourselves in the midst of temptations is not the cause of sin. Sin happens when you yield yourselves over to those temptations and do them. There is a big big difference in what you are saying the scriptures are teaching.

 

Now, the reason God tells women to dress in “modest apparel”, is so that they will not be a temptation to men.  Is God making an excuse for sin?!?  Of course not!  He is stating a “cause of sin”!

Again he is not stating a "cause of sin" rather Paul is stating a "cause of temptation".

[missmuffet]

Is a person still subject to the marriage bed if they are being abused and not genuinely loved as God wants for a married couple?

[Guest shiloh357]

What the verse is saying is that a couple who has devoted themselves to fasting and prayer and have opted to avoid sexual contact during that time,  should not avoid it for so long that they are tempted to sin.  They should not deprive each other of marital relations.

 

A person being  abused should pull themselves out of that situation, I think.  Not divorce, but separation so that the abuser can get counseling and get their life together   I would not recommend simply remaining in an abusive situation.

 

I am not a counselor.   that is only my opinion.

[missmuffet]

What the verse is saying is that a couple who has devoted themselves to fasting and prayer and have opted to avoid sexual contact during that time,  should not avoid it for so long that they are tempted to sin.  They should not deprive each other of marital relations.

 

A person being  abused should pull themselves out of that situation, I think.  Not divorce, but separation so that the abuser can get counseling and get their life together   I would not recommend simply remaining in an abusive situation.

 

I am not a counselor.   that is only my opinion.

That is what I would recommend.

[Openly Curious]

What the verse is saying is that a couple who has devoted themselves to fasting and prayer and have opted to avoid sexual contact during that time,  should not avoid it for so long that they are tempted to sin.  They should not deprive each other of marital relations.

Exactly

[bigape]

Is a person still subject to the marriage bed if they are being abused and not genuinely loved as God wants for a married couple?

 

Hello bopeep1909

In answer to your question....  No, not when abuse is in the home.

(But you may need to talk to your pastor about it!)

  And study 1 Corinthians 7:10-ff

This seems to cover the area you are talking about!

 

[missmuffet]

 

Is a person still subject to the marriage bed if they are being abused and not genuinely loved as God wants for a married couple?

 

Hello bopeep1909

In answer to your question....  No, not when abuse is in the home.

(But you may need to talk to your pastor about it!)

  And study 1 Corinthians 7:10-ff

This seems to cover the area you are talking about!

 

 

I do have an answer to my question.And no a person does not have to answer to an abusive spouse.