Did God Commission Solomon to Build the Temple?

[mevosper]

Here's an interesting verse I don't think anyone has posted in this topic. This was recorded at the beginning of Solomons reign (which is a very interesting read by the way). I continue to believe that it was righteous desire, though God probably planted this strong desire within David's heart. Hiram, the king of Tyre who provided the Cedar, was blessed, overjoyed,  to be considered for his task to Solomon. The story is in 1 kings 5.

1 Kings 3:2Only the people sacrificed in high places, because there was no house built unto the name of the LORD, until those days.

 

[Ezra]

John,

Please stay focused.  You said God did not commission Solomon to build the Temple. I showed you that He did. Your response should have "Sorry, my mistake". All the other issues are EXTRANEOUS, and we could go into an in-depth study of all of that.  But the main point is that your were not giving us the precise Scriptures connecting the Temple to God through Solomon and that is what should have been done in the first place. God blessed Solomon and God blessed that Temple. What happened later, and what was said later is another issue altogether.

[JohnD]

Ezra.

Again I showed you in the over all context of scripture God did not intend anyone to build a Temple other than the Messiah and that of the body of believers not stone dead edifices like any other pagan religion. Furthermore in conjunction with these texts I repeatedly cite the texts you cite only prove my point that God conceded to deal with Israel through the temple system once they built the temple the same way he conceded the monarchy of Israel.

[Your closest friendnt]

God had a tabernacle, the one Moses  build to him.

The people of Israel were on the moved and the tabernacle oh God was on the moved.

The time came that the people establish them selfs in the land and they had buildt houses to live in. 

At that time, the Lord gave them the assurance that they are establish in the land by telling them you won't live in tents anymore and neither am I. 

It is time for me, to leave the Tabernacle, and move in a house, 

I will protect the Land and My house. Have no fear, the same way he gave the sign of the rainbow.

To build the Temple istand of the Tabernacle was also a sign from God, that you are establish in the Land have no fear, no more living in tents. 

[Esther4:14]

The LORD conceded to the construction of the Temple (as he had conceded the monarchy in 1 Samuel 8) and to deal with Israel on that basis henceforth.

That is not the question.

The question is, Did God Commission (Command) Solomon to Build the Temple?

I agree with you.  Scripture clearly shows that God conceded to build the temple according to the desire that David had to build Him a temple when he became king.  

"Then David said to Nathan the prophet, “Look, I am living in a palace made of cedar wood, but the Ark of God is in a tent!”

3 Nathan said to the king, “Go and do what you really want to do, because the Lord is with you.” (2 Samuel 7:2-3).  I think this was somewhat admirable of him to want to use his resources for the Lord as opposed to other ways he could have spent his fortunes.  Nonetheless, the Lord's agreement to have a temple built at the request of the man after His own heart (1 Samuel 13:14) could not be considered His own command to serve any other purpose than to show favor towards David at the time that the temple was built.  

He did not consider David capable of building a temple because he has shed much blood, but He promised him that this would be accomplished through his son Solomon (1 Chronicles 22:9).  

Therefore, it is clear that He did not command a temple to built, but conceded to give this opportunity to a man who became a camel trying to get through the eye of a needle overnight (Mark 10:25).  

Ezra.

Again I showed you in the over all context of scripture God did not intend anyone to build a Temple other than the Messiah and that of the body of believers not stone dead edifices like any other pagan religion. Furthermore in conjunction with these texts I repeatedly cite the texts you cite only prove my point that God conceded to deal with Israel through the temple system once they built the temple the same way he conceded the monarchy of Israel.

I think you make a good point here.  

 

Edited October 9, 2015 by Esther4:14

[JohnD]

The LORD conceded to the construction of the Temple (as he had conceded the monarchy in 1 Samuel 8) and to deal with Israel on that basis henceforth.

That is not the question.

The question is, Did God Commission (Command) Solomon to Build the Temple?

I agree with you.  Scripture clearly shows that God conceded to build the temple according to the desire that David had to build Him a temple when he became king.  

"Then David said to Nathan the prophet, “Look, I am living in a palace made of cedar wood, but the Ark of God is in a tent!”

3 Nathan said to the king, “Go and do what you really want to do, because the Lord is with you.” (2 Samuel 7:2-3).  I think this was somewhat admirable of him to want to use his resources for the Lord as opposed to other ways he could have spent his fortunes.  Nonetheless, the Lord's agreement to have a temple built at the request of the man after His own heart (1 Samuel 13:14) could not be considered His own command to serve any other purpose than to show favor towards David at the time that the temple was built.  

He did not consider David capable of building a temple because he has shed much blood, but He promised him that this would be accomplished through his son Solomon (1 Chronicles 22:9).  

Therefore, it is clear that He did not command a temple to built, but conceded to give this opportunity to a man who became a camel trying to get through the eye of a needle overnight (Mark 10:25).  

Ezra.

Again I showed you in the over all context of scripture God did not intend anyone to build a Temple other than the Messiah and that of the body of believers not stone dead edifices like any other pagan religion. Furthermore in conjunction with these texts I repeatedly cite the texts you cite only prove my point that God conceded to deal with Israel through the temple system once they built the temple the same way he conceded the monarchy of Israel.

I think you make a good point here.  

 

Thank you.

[JohnD]

John 2:18–21 (AV)

18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Corinthians 3:16 (AV)

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1 Peter 2:3–9 (AV)

3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

Edited October 10, 2015 by JohnD

[JohnD]

The one bugaboo in this is:

1 Chronicles 28:12 (AV)

12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:

...but what scripture indicates is David was inspired by the Holy Spirit regarding the surrounding courts and outbuildings of the temple complex and not the Temple itself. Reading the text carefully shows David [apparently] did design the Temple, but [apparently] on his own. This may be an example of messianic prophecy.

Messianic prophecy has ironic traits many may not be aware of. Traits of thesis / antithesis or christ / antichrist revelations. For example, when David took the census in 1 Chronicles 21... purely prophetic of the antichrist taking the 666 census.

Revelation 13:16–18 (AV)

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Purpose of the census: to expose believers in Jesus Christ (those who will not receive the mark).

 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2015 by JohnD

[JohnD]

The Bible comes prophetically to mankind (from Genesis to Revelation), and is thesis - antithesis contrasting good with evil etc. It is in effect digital or a book of twos (opposites). Footnote: this does not mean the opposites are equals as some misinterpret these contrasts. In Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Saul, and David you will see in their lives certain true Messiah prophecies and certain false messiah prophecies. Like when Saul offered the illegal sacrifice (1 Samuel 15). Saul was an anointed king (messianic). He was a prophet and king. He overstepped his bounds by doing the duty of a priest (prophet, priest, and king) which only the ultimate Messiah (Jesus) is supposed to be.

There are many such prophecies, like when Joseph imprisoned his brothers and then imprisoned only Simeon. Saul when he hunted David, Absalom when he hunted David, David when he committed adultery with the daughter of the covenant (BatSheva), and again when he took the illegal census.

 

Edited October 14, 2015 by JohnD