Did God Commission Solomon to Build the Temple?

[Ezra]

JohnD - What is the significance of the question: "Did God commission Solomon to build the temple?"?

JohnD is taking a Scripture out of context to prove that God did NOT commission Solomon to build the Temple (or so it would appear). But the fact of the matter is that God did indeed commission Solomon to build a Temple, and it was done according to God's plan, therefore God blessed that effort. We all know that God cannot be limited to a Temple, but that is entirely beside the point.  There will also be a Millennial Temple set up with God's approval and under His direction.

[JohnD]

Since God did not commission or command Solomon to build the Temple (2 Samuel 7:12-13 / Zechariah 6:12-13, Isaiah 66:1-2) but God placed his name on the Temple Solomon built anyway... it is a concession nevertheless.

David's and Solomon's words contradict you, and they are words of scripture.

I think I will take their words in scripture over yours contradicting them any day my friend.

 

 

Agreed. Scripture is supreme over any man's word. But the evidence I showed was from scripture.

[JohnD]

JohnD - What is the significance of the question: "Did God commission Solomon to build the temple?"?

JohnD is taking a Scripture out of context to prove that God did NOT commission Solomon to build the Temple (or so it would appear). But the fact of the matter is that God did indeed commission Solomon to build a Temple, and it was done according to God's plan, therefore God blessed that effort. We all know that God cannot be limited to a Temple, but that is entirely beside the point.  There will also be a Millennial Temple set up with God's approval and under His direction.

Then Ezra should have no trouble showing the scriptures indicating God commanded Solomon to build the Temple.

And in Hebrews 8:5 clearly the command and pattern for him to follow is mentioned:

Hebrews 8:5 (AV)

5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Oh, no wait, it doesn't.

 

[JohnD]

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1 Kings 8:20
KJ21
And the Lord hath performed His word that He spoke; and I have risen up in the place of David my father and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built a house for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
ASV
And Jehovah hath established his word that he spake; for I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as Jehovah promised, and have built the house for the name of Jehovah, the God of Israel.
AMP
Now the Lord has fulfilled His word which He spoke; I have risen in the place of my father David and have taken my seat on the throne of Israel, just as the Lord promised, and have built the house (temple) for the Name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
AMPC
And the Lord has fulfilled His promise which He made: I have risen up in the place of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built a house for the Name (renown) of the Lord, the God of Israel.
BRG
And the Lord hath performed his word that he spake, and I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built an house for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
CEB
The Lord has kept his promise—I have succeeded my father David on Israel’s throne just as the Lord said, and I have built the temple for the name of the Lord, Israel’s God.
CJB
Now Adonai has fulfilled this spoken word of his; for I have succeeded my father and sit on the throne of Isra’el, as Adonai promised; and I have built the house for the name of Adonai the God of Isra’el.
CEV
The Lord has done what he promised. I am the king of Israel like my father, and I’ve built a temple for the Lord our God.
DARBY
And Jehovah has performed his word which he spoke; and I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as Jehovah promised, and I have built the house unto the name of Jehovah the God of Israel.
DRA
The Lord hath performed his word which he spoke: and I stand in the room of David my father, and sit upon the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised: and have built a house to the name of the Lord the God of Israel.
ERV
“So the Lord has kept his promises. I am the king now in place of my father David. I rule the people of Israel as the Lord promised. And I have built the Temple for the Lord, the God of Israel.
ESV
Now the Lord has fulfilled his promise that he made. For I have risen in the place of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and I have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
ESVUK
Now the Lord has fulfilled his promise that he made. For I have risen in the place of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and I have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
EXB
“Now the Lord has ·kept [fulfilled] his promise. I ·am the king now [L have risen] in place of David my father. Now I ·rule [L sit on the throne of] Israel as the Lord promised, and I have built the ·Temple [L house] ·for [to honor; L for the name of] the Lord, the God of Israel.
GNV
And the Lord hath made good his word that he spake: and I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built the house for the Name of the Lord God of Israel.
GW
The Lord has kept the promise he made. I have taken my father David’s place, and I sit on the throne of Israel as the Lord promised. I’ve built the temple for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
GNT
“And now the Lord has kept his promise. I have succeeded my father as king of Israel, and I have built the Temple for the worship of the Lord God of Israel.
HCSB
The Lord has fulfilled what He promised. I have taken the place of my father David, and I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised. I have built the temple for the name of Yahweh, the God of Israel.
ICB
“So the Lord has kept the promise that he gave. I am the king now in place of David my father. Now I rule Israel as the Lord promised. And I have built the Temple for worshiping the Lord, the God of Israel.
ISV
“The Lord has brought to fulfillment what he promised, and now here I stand, having succeeded my father David to sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised. I have built the Temple for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
JUB
And the LORD has established his word that he spoke, and I have risen up in the place of David, my father, and sit on the throne of Israel as the LORD had said and have built a house for the name of the LORD God of Israel.
KJV
And the Lord hath performed his word that he spake, and I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built an house for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
AKJV
And the Lord hath performed his word that he spake, and I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built an house for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
LEB
Yahweh has carried out his promise which he had made; I have risen in place of David my father, and I sit on the throne of Israel as Yahweh promised, and I have built the house for the name of Yahweh the God of Israel.
TLB
And now the Lord has done what he promised; for I have followed my father as king of Israel, and now this Temple has been built for the Lord God of Israel.
MSG
“God has done what he said he would do: I have succeeded David my father and ruled over Israel just as God promised; and now I’ve built a Temple to honor God, the God of Israel, and I’ve secured a place for the Chest that holds the covenant of God, the covenant that he made with our ancestors when he brought them up from the land of Egypt.”
MEV
“The Lord has fulfilled His word that He spoke, and I have been elevated to the position of my father David, to sit on the throne of Israel as the Lord promised, and have built a house for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
NOG
Yahweh has kept the promise he made. I have taken my father David’s place, and I sit on the throne of Israel as Yahweh promised. I’ve built the temple for the name of Yahweh Elohim of Israel.
NABRE
Now the Lord has fulfilled the word he spoke: I have succeeded David my father, and I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord has spoken, and I have built this house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NASB
Now the Lord has fulfilled His word which He spoke; for I have risen in place of my father David and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NCV
“Now the Lord has kept his promise. I am the king now in place of David my father. Now I rule Israel as the Lord promised, and I have built the Temple for the Lord, the God of Israel.
NET
The Lord has kept the promise he made. I have taken my father David’s place and have occupied the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised. I have built this temple for the honor of the Lord God of Israel
NIRV
“The Lord has kept the promise he made. I’ve become the next king after my father David. Now I’m sitting on the throne of Israel. That’s exactly what the Lord promised would happen. I’ve built the temple where the Lord will put his Name. He is the God of Israel.
NIV
“The Lord has kept the promise he made: I have succeeded David my father and now I sit on the throne of Israel, just as the Lord promised, and I have built the temple for the Name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NIVUK
‘The Lord has kept the promise he made: I have succeeded David my father and now I sit on the throne of Israel, just as the Lord promised, and I have built the temple for the Name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NKJV
So the Lord has fulfilled His word which He spoke; and I have filled the position of my father David, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised; and I have built a temple for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
NLV
Now the Lord has kept His promise which He made. For I have taken my father David’s place and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised. And I have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NLT
“And now the Lord has fulfilled the promise he made, for I have become king in my father’s place, and now I sit on the throne of Israel, just as the Lord promised. I have built this Temple to honor the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NRSV
Now the Lord has upheld the promise that he made; for I have risen in the place of my father David; I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NRSVA
Now the Lord has upheld the promise that he made; for I have risen in the place of my father David; I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NRSVACE
Now the Lord has upheld the promise that he made; for I have risen in the place of my father David; I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
NRSVCE
Now the Lord has upheld the promise that he made; for I have risen in the place of my father David; I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
OJB
And Hashem hath fulfilled His Davar that He spoke, and I am risen up in the place of Dovid Avi, and sit on the Kisse Yisroel, just as Hashem promised, and have built Bayit for the Shem Hashem Elohei Yisroel.
RSV
Now the Lord has fulfilled his promise which he made; for I have risen in the place of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and I have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
RSVCE
Now the Lord has fulfilled his promise which he made; for I have risen in the place of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord promised, and I have built the house for the name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
VOICE
The Eternal has kept this promise. I now sit upon my father David’s throne—the throne of Israel—just as He said, and I have constructed the temple honoring the reputation of the Eternal One, Israel’s God.
WEB
Yahweh has established his word that he spoke; for I have risen up in the place of David my father, and I sit on the throne of Israel, as Yahweh promised, and have built the house for the name of Yahweh, the God of Israel.
WYC
The Lord hath now confirmed his word, that he spake; and I stood for David, my father, and I sat upon the throne of Israel, as the Lord spake; and I have builded an house to the name of the Lord God of Israel. (The Lord hath now fulfilled his word, that he spoke; and I have stood in place of my father David, and now I sit on the throne of Israel, as the Lord spoke; and I have built a House in honour of the name of the Lord God of Israel.)
YLT
`And Jehovah doth establish His word which He spake, and I am risen up instead of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as Jehovah spake, and build the house for the name of Jehovah, God of Israel,
 

David's say so, passed on through Solomon. Which scripture records as David having said so and Solomon having said so. But there is no corroboration from God or any other prophet. In fact God balks at the idea (Isaiah 66:1-2 and elsewhere) and tells David outright not to build the Temple. David supplied the reason. God did not.

 

 

[Ezra]

David's say so, passed on through Solomon. Which scripture records as David having said so and Solomon having said so. But there is no corroboration from God or any other prophet. In fact God balks at the idea (Isaiah 66:1-2 and elsewhere) and tells David outright not to build the Temple. David supplied the reason. God did not.

John,

I hope you don't believe that Isaiah was a contemporary of David and Solomon, since you keep bringing up his words. There is a gap of approximately 400 years between the building of Solomon's Temple, and the prophecies of Isaiah.  So for all intents and purposes, Isaiah has no relevance to this thread. To respond very briefly to your contention that God did not commission Solomon, we have God's words confirming that Solomon was approved by God to build that temple (2 Chronicles 7:11,12):

Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.  And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

[Your closest friendnt]

Isaiah 66:1–2 (AV)

1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Did God commission Solomon to build the Temple?

The answer to this question in one word is NO.

when Isaias wrote this scripture, Solomon was dead long time ago,

And it's  impossible to have made this reference to anyone that was under the Law of Moses. 

Because that scripture does not make any reference to been under the rule of the Mosaic Law, to the contrary it suggest that is withing a season, that is out of the Law season.

It does not say that, together with keeping, and be perfect under the law, in addition to this I Whould bless only the man with a poor spirit and a contried heart. 

It says; that I will look to the man, (but what man, is he tauking about, and it is singural form, and this man will have my word, and what his word  is about, 

And he said all that, after a season, when the Temple was shut down for a season and the idols where in Jerusalem, and many of people who were right in their heart , were shut out of the Lord, 

Here it seems he is tauking of a season that is not known to them.

A season without the need of this Kind of Temple, that the Lord can judge every one Individualy, and what is that here my voice, or having my word in him, it sounds The New Covenant season, Holy Spirit season.

When all the other times, he is saying keep the commandments written in the book of the Law.

[mevosper]

It seems to me there didn't need to be a commandment from God to David or Solomon to build the temple. It was the desire of David, one after God's own heart, to build the temple. Nathan told him, "do as thine heart pleases". However, just as Moses could not enter into the promised land, so David was actually commanded not to build the temple. That fulfillment of that desire was given to Solomon. 

No need for a commandment. It was the righteous desire of a king to build a house for his God. 

[Your closest friendnt]

It seems to me there didn't need to be a commandment from God to David or Solomon to build the temple. It was the desire of David, one after God's own heart, to build the temple. Nathan told him, "do as thine heart pleases". However, just as Moses could not enter into the promised land, so David was actually commanded not to build the temple. That fulfillment of that desire was given to Solomon. 

No need for a commandment. It was the righteous desire of a king to build a house for his God. 

This is the same as saying that, I will be a moral person and very charitable, having the best self-righteousness and I am ready vessel  for God to come and make his house in me, that will never work, not only in the new, but also in the old covenant, 

the point to built God a house or a tabernacle it was that it was impossible for them, to be the temple and or the tabernacle of God.

[thereselittleflower]

It seems to me there didn't need to be a commandment from God to David or Solomon to build the temple. It was the desire of David, one after God's own heart, to build the temple. Nathan told him, "do as thine heart pleases". However, just as Moses could not enter into the promised land, so David was actually commanded not to build the temple. That fulfillment of that desire was given to Solomon. 

No need for a commandment. It was the righteous desire of a king to build a house for his God. 

This is the same as saying that, I will be a moral person and very charitable, having the best self-righteousness and I am ready vessel  for God to come and make his house in me, that will never work, not only in the new, but also in the old covenant, 

the point to built God a house or a tabernacle it was that it was impossible for them, to be the temple and or the tabernacle of God.

That is a very interesting observation.  And this is why it was a type and shadow of what was to come through Christ, we all individually, our bodies, are the temple of the Holy Spirit now.

Also, God told David he did well in wanting to build a house for God:

1 Kings 8
…18"But the LORD said to my father David, 'Because it was in your heart to build a house for My name, you did well that it was in your heart.

 

 

[JohnD]

 

David's say so, passed on through Solomon. Which scripture records as David having said so and Solomon having said so. But there is no corroboration from God or any other prophet. In fact God balks at the idea (Isaiah 66:1-2 and elsewhere) and tells David outright not to build the Temple. David supplied the reason. God did not.

John,

I hope you don't believe that Isaiah was a contemporary of David and Solomon, since you keep bringing up his words. There is a gap of approximately 400 years between the building of Solomon's Temple, and the prophecies of Isaiah.  So for all intents and purposes, Isaiah has no relevance to this thread. To respond very briefly to your contention that God did not commission Solomon, we have God's words confirming that Solomon was approved by God to build that temple (2 Chronicles 7:11,12):

Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.  And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

2 Chronicles 6:5–6 (AV)

5 Since the day that I brought forth my people out of the land of Egypt I chose no city among all the tribes of Israel to build an house in, that my name might be there; neither chose I any man to be a ruler over my people Israel*:

6 But I have chosen Jerusalem, that my name might be there; and have chosen David to be over my people Israel.

(no mention of a house for his name)

2 Samuel 7:5–7 (AV)

5 Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the LORD, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in?

6 Whereas I have not dwelt in any house since the time that I brought up the children of Israel out of Egypt, even to this day, but have walked in a tent and in a tabernacle.

7 In all the places wherein I have walked with all the children of Israel spake I a word with any of the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people Israel, saying, Why build ye not me an house of cedar?

Isaiah 66:1–2 (AV)

1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

*see 1 Samuel chapter 8

God conceded to give Israel a King

God conceded to the building of the Temple

And Israel was seldom in God's favor from that time onward.