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When is Satan/Dragon/Devil thrown out of Heaven


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On 11/7/2015 at 0:43 PM, Spock said:

So, what is the consensus here as to when Satan is thrown out of heaven?


1. When Jesus died at Calvary, and thus won back right to rule planet Earth

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2. It is in the future- in the middle of the final 7 year period, right when the AC does his abomination thing?

Or

3. Both of the above.

Or

4. None of the above.

I don't think we can know, for sure, the timing except that this happens AFTER the Seventh Trumpet is blown in Rev. 11...........

Rev. 12    KJV

And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

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Rev 12:1-3

12 And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.
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On 11/19/2015 at 4:16 AM, Bible_Gazer said:

Did the Devil not fight against the church ? Does he still do it today ?

Does he not have ministers of righteousness ? 2Cor. 11:12-15

Sure, it jibes.

 

Nope. 

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Rev 12:13-15
 14 And the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, in order that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.
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I think the wings of the big eagle will bring her to Texas/Oklahoma to safety from the Devil and his hord.

 

 

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On ‎1‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 6:47 PM, MorningGlory said:

I don't think we can know, for sure, the timing except that this happens AFTER the Seventh Trumpet is blown in Rev. 11...........

Rev. 12    KJV

And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

MorningGlory,

Do you believe that the chapters of the Book of Revelation are in chronological order?

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2 hours ago, Watching for Jesus said:

MorningGlory,

Do you believe that the chapters of the Book of Revelation are in chronological order?

Never thought about it.  Why?

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11 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Never thought about it.  Why?

 You said that Satan will be cast out of heaven after the seventh trumpet.  Do you believe this because the sounding of the seventh trumpet is shown in Chapter 11, and Satan being cast out is shown in Chapter 12?

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When is he thrown out of heaven?      

or when WAS he thrown out of heaven?

 

  • Luke 10

    The Seventy-Two Return with Joy
    17The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name." 18And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.19"Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you

 

Those words were spoken 2000 years ago.

  • Isaiah 14:12
    How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

 

Those words were written even longer ago.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said:

When is he thrown out of heaven?      

or when WAS he thrown out of heaven?

 

  • Luke 10

    The Seventy-Two Return with Joy
    17The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name." 18And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.19"Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you

 

Those words were spoken 2000 years ago.

  • Isaiah 14:12
    How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

 

Those words were written even longer ago.

 

 

Both are Prophetic, yet future. (Rev 12:10, 11) For Satan is our accuser in heaven, They overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb, as we do.  So when did Jesus see Satan fall like lightning, for the Cross came later from the Luke 10:18 verse.

In Christ

Montana Marv

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4 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Both are Prophetic, yet future. (Rev 12:10, 11) For Satan is our accuser in heaven, They overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb, as we do.  So when did Jesus see Satan fall like lightning, for the Cross came later from the Luke 10:18 verse.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Jesus didn't say this is something that will happen, but something that did happen, and in the context of what the 70 came back and reported, how they had power over demons.

I don't see anything prophetic in his words here.   This was something Jesus saw had happened.

 

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