When Christ returns to the Mount of Olives.

[Marilyn C]

We know that the Lord comes to the Mount of Olives when He returns to earth, but what are the details given in God`s word surrounding this astounding event. This is what I believe God`s word tells us.

 

Jesus tells us that when He comes with His holy angels, that the world will be in darkness.

 

`Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, & the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, & the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, & then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, & they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power & great glory.` (Matt. 24: 29 & 30)

`When the Son of an comes in His glory, & all the holy angels with Him.` (Matt. 25: 31)

 

This particular day when the Lord comes, is quite unusual. It will be a day which is neither light nor dark. A day that quite unnaturally becomes light at evening time. It is the day when the Lord of Hosts & His angelic armies leave the heavenly heights to invade the Satanically – ruled earth; & as all natural light has ceased, suddenly this strange eerie half-light appears. This I believe is the first ray & glimmer emanating from the distant armies of heaven who are on their way to this sin-stricken blackened earth. Thus at evening time the light is brighter, as though there were a steady increase in this emanation of glory.

 

`And it shall come to pass in that day that there will be no light; the lights will diminish. It shall be one day which is known to the Lord – neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen that is will be light.` (Zech. 14: 6 & 7)

 

`Then I saw heaven opened, & behold, a white horse. And He who sat on Him was called Faithful & True, & in righteousness He judges & makes war…….& the armies in heaven…..followed Him..` (Rev. 19: 11 & 14)

 

We are also shown the approach of Christ & His angelic army over Jerusalem, then the valley of Jehoshaphat & on to the Mount of Olives.

 

`Like birds flying about, so will the Lord of hosts defend Jerusalem. Defending, He will also deliver it; passing over, He will preserve it.` (Isa. 31: 5)

 

`Then the Lord will go forth & fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east.` (Zech. 14: 3 & 4)

 

`And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, & their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. (Zech. 14: 12)

 

The Lord then crosses the valley & enters Jerusalem by the eastern gate. There He meets with the people of Judah first & later those in Jerusalem.

 

`The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David & the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah……And I (God) will pour on the house of David & on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace & supplication; then they will look on me whom they have pierced; they will mourn for him as one mourns for his only son, & grieve for him as one grieves for a first-born.`  (Zech. 12: 7 & 10)

 

Next the Lord brings judgment upon the Gentile nations – those who looked after His brethren (the Jews) during the tribulation & those of the nations that didn`t. (Matt. 25: 31 – 46)

 

`When the Son of Man comes in His glory, & all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, & He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides His sheep from the goats.` (Matt. 25: 31 & 32)

 

Then the Lord Jesus Christ establishes His righteous government through Israel as He promised. He anoints a man called David to be king over Israel, & also some to be priests.

 

`For it shall come to pass in that day, says the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from your neck, & burst your bonds; foreigners shall no more enslave them. But they shall serve the Lord their God, & David their king, whom I will raise up for them.` (Jer. 30: 8 & 9)

 

`It shall be that I will gather all nations & tongues; & they shall come & see my glory……Then they shall bring all your brethren for an offering to the Lord out of all nations,….& I will also take some of them for priests…` (Isa. 66: 18  &  21)

 

So we see that the Lord has subdued the people under His feet, He has connected to Israel & set His government with them. He is King over all the earth.

 

`For the Lord Most High is awesome; He is a great King over all the earth. He will subdue the peoples under us, & the nations under our feet.` (Ps. 47: 2 & 3)

 

Finally `God has gone UP with a shout, the Lord with the sound of a trumpet.` (Ps. 47: 5)

 

 

What do you believe from God`s word of these details surrounding Christ`s return to the Mount of Olives?

 

Marilyn.

 

 

 

[missmuffet]

Immediately following Jesus’ ascension, two angels told the disciples on the Mount of Olives that “this same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven” (Acts 1:11). According to the prophet Zechariah, Jesus will return not only in the same way, but to the same place. In a prophecy related to the end times, Zechariah declares, “On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south” (Zechariah 14:4). The very location where David wept in defeat and where Jesus was betrayed and rejected will be the place where Jesus returns in triumph over all His enemies.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Mount-of-Olives.html

Edited November 4, 2015 by bopeep1909

[Montana Marv]

Yes, bopeep

Christ does rule here on earth during the 1000 years.

Ezk. 43: 1-7 - portions:  v.4 - The glory of the Lord entered the temple through the gate facing east. (The East Gate has been bricked over for centuries to prevent this from happening, Muslims know this prophecy).  v. 7 - this is the place of my throne and the place for the soles of my feet.  This is where I will live among the Israelites forever.  Christ rules from and dwells in the temple which is in Jerusalem.  It is Christ who sits on the throne, not David as stated in the OP.  It is Christ who the kings of the earth pay homage to. They bring their splendor to Him, as the one and only King over the whole earth. (Zech 14:9)

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Marilyn C]

Yes, bopeep

Christ does rule here on earth during the 1000 years.

Ezk. 43: 1-7 - portions:  v.4 - The glory of the Lord entered the temple through the gate facing east. (The East Gate has been bricked over for centuries to prevent this from happening, Muslims know this prophecy).  v. 7 - this is the place of my throne and the place for the soles of my feet.  This is where I will live among the Israelites forever.  Christ rules from and dwells in the temple which is in Jerusalem.  It is Christ who sits on the throne, not David as stated in the OP.  It is Christ who the kings of the earth pay homage to. They bring their splendor to Him, as the one and only King over the whole earth. (Zech 14:9)

In Christ

Montana Marv

Hi Montana Marv,

Have you considered that the Lord is referring to `His glory, His authority?`

`the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east...

...the earth shone with His glory....

...and the glory of the Lord came into the temple.....

....and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple..` (Ez. 43: 1, 4 & 5)

 

Marilyn.

 

 

[Montana Marv]

Yes, bopeep

Christ does rule here on earth during the 1000 years.

Ezk. 43: 1-7 - portions:  v.4 - The glory of the Lord entered the temple through the gate facing east. (The East Gate has been bricked over for centuries to prevent this from happening, Muslims know this prophecy).  v. 7 - this is the place of my throne and the place for the soles of my feet.  This is where I will live among the Israelites forever.  Christ rules from and dwells in the temple which is in Jerusalem.  It is Christ who sits on the throne, not David as stated in the OP.  It is Christ who the kings of the earth pay homage to. They bring their splendor to Him, as the one and only King over the whole earth. (Zech 14:9)

In Christ

Montana Marv

Hi Montana Marv,

Have you considered that the Lord is referring to `His glory, His authority?`

`the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east...

...the earth shone with His glory....

...and the glory of the Lord came into the temple.....

....and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple..` (Ez. 43: 1, 4 & 5)

 

Marilyn.

 

 

Marilyn

Scripture says in Ezk 43:7 - He said, 'Son of Man, this is the place of my throne and place for the soles of my feet.  This is where I will live among the Israelites forever'.

Zech 2: 10-13 - Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion.  For I am coming, and I will live among you, declares the Lord.  Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become my people.  I will live among you and you will know the the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.  The Lord will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land and will again choose Jerusalem.  Be still before the Lord, all mankind, because he has roused himself from his holy dwelling.  Zech 8:3 - This is what the Lord says;  I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem....

Isa. 2:4 - He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples.

Isa. 25:6 - On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine, the best of meats and the finest of wines.

The Lord Almighty reigns physically on this earth as Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi Montana Marv,

I hear what you are saying, but to my understanding, it is God`s presence that is with Israel & the nations on the earth. Just as God dwelt with Adam & Eve in the garden & even now within our lives, it is the presence of God.

So had you thought what it means to think that Christ is actually living on earth during the millennium, (& beyond?).

- How does He uphold everything?

- Do all the millions of angels come to earth too?

- Why do we (the Body of Christ) have a glorified body like the Lord`s that can go through realms, if all we do is live on earth?

- If the Lord is on earth, then why do people die & there is still rebellion?

 

Marilyn. 

 

[n2thelight]

Hi Marilyn

We were always meant to live on earth,and at one time we did,however we were not in the flesh at that time,only the animals....After the rebellion of satan,God destroyed the earth,that's how it became desolate,as it was not created that way....

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

In the Hebrew translation of the word, "was", as used in this verse "...the earth was without form,..."; in the original text it reads "became without form...". This same mistranslation of the word "became", and turning it into the word "was" is also present in Genesis 2:7. It should read there; "..and man became a living soul."

was

1961 hayah

hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root [compare OT:1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):KJV - beacon, altogether, be (-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, follow, happen, have, last, pertain, quit (oneself-), require, use.

void
922

bohuw (bo'-hoo); from an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, i.e. (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin:

KJV - emptiness, void.

The correct Hebrew translation from the Massoretic Hebrew text for the words, "without form" is "tohu-va bohu" in the Hebrew Strong's dictionary. So we see that the earth was not "created without form", but it "became [tohu] without form and void". Lets go to Strong's Hebrew dictionary, reference number 1961 to verify the word "was", that we read in this verse. "Yahah, haw-yaw; a prime root, to exit; to become, or come to pass." [#1961]

Excerpt from The Companion Bible Appendix 8:
 

The word "without form" (Hebrew tohu) is used of a subsequent event which, we know not how long after the Creation, befell the primitive creation of Genesis 1:1. It occurs in Genesis 1:2. Deuteronomy 32:10. 1Samuel 12:21 (twice). Job 6:18; 12:24; 26:7. Psalm 107:40. Isaiah 24:10; 29:21; 34:11; 40:17, 23; 41:29; 44:9; 45:18, 19; 49:4; 59:4. Jeremiah 4:23.

 

The Hebrew bohu, rendered "void", means desolate, and occurs in Genesis 1:2. Isaiah 34:11. Jeremiah 4:23. The two words together occur in Genesis 1:2. Isaiah 34:11. Jeremiah 4:23.

end Companion Bible excerpt

"Tohu" of the earth, then means that total destruction had come to pass upon the earth. The second "was" in the verse is in italics type because there is no verb "to be" in the Hebrew language. One of the problems in translating the Hebrew into English is that the verb, "to be" is not distinguished from the verb, "to become".

At the end of Genesis 1:1 the first earth age ceased to exist in its previous form. God created the earth to be inhabited, and then He destroyed it. There was an entire earth age that existed between verses one and two of Genesis. This first earth age is spoken of in II Peter, Jeremiah, Proverbs, and Jude.

 

[Montana Marv]

Hi Montana Marv,

I hear what you are saying, but to my understanding, it is God`s presence that is with Israel & the nations on the earth. Just as God dwelt with Adam & Eve in the garden & even now within our lives, it is the presence of God.

So had you thought what it means to think that Christ is actually living on earth during the millennium, (& beyond?).

- How does He uphold everything?

- Do all the millions of angels come to earth too?

- Why do we (the Body of Christ) have a glorified body like the Lord`s that can go through realms, if all we do is live on earth?

- If the Lord is on earth, then why do people die & there is still rebellion?

 

Marilyn. 

 

Marilyn

I do not think you do know what I am saying.  God does not live with men until after the 1000 years.  Rev 21:3b - Now the dwelling of God (New Jerusalem) is with men, and he will live with them....

Yet, Christ rules with a rod of iron.  Psa. 2:9 - You will rule them with a rod of iron.  Why?  Because the nations still squabble with each other.  And these peoples (nations) came out of the 70th Week alive in their physical bodies. Satan was the task manager during the last half of the 70th Week and influenced them all.  They still have choice, that is why Satan is able to turn many of them at the end of the 1000 years.  There is still freewill, but without Satan's influence.

Christ upheld everything when He was on earth during his first advent.  Nothing has changed with Christ and God and the Holy Spirit.  They are still ONE.

Have you thought that maybe Jerusalem is the center of Gods total creation.  He is just a arms reach away, yet in another dimension.  He is far, far away, yet very, very close.

Christ is roused out of His heavenly place to rule on this earth.  (Zech 2:13)

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Marilyn C]

Hi n2thelight,

I agree that man was created to live on the earth. And we know that man will again live on the earth in the new heavens & new earth time. However the absolutely amazing thing is that a special called out group, with glorified bodies like the Lord Jesus, that can go through realms & dimensions, will live in the third heaven above.

Different groups for different purposes, but all in God`s great Kingdom under the rulership of the Lord.

 

Marilyn.

[Marilyn C]

Hi Montana Marv,

I hear what you are saying, but to my understanding, it is God`s presence that is with Israel & the nations on the earth. Just as God dwelt with Adam & Eve in the garden & even now within our lives, it is the presence of God.

So had you thought what it means to think that Christ is actually living on earth during the millennium, (& beyond?).

- How does He uphold everything?

- Do all the millions of angels come to earth too?

- Why do we (the Body of Christ) have a glorified body like the Lord`s that can go through realms, if all we do is live on earth?

- If the Lord is on earth, then why do people die & there is still rebellion?

 

Marilyn. 

 

Marilyn

I do not think you do know what I am saying.  God does not live with men until after the 1000 years.  Rev 21:3b - Now the dwelling of God (New Jerusalem) is with men, and he will live with them....

Yet, Christ rules with a rod of iron.  Psa. 2:9 - You will rule them with a rod of iron.  Why?  Because the nations still squabble with each other.  And these peoples (nations) came out of the 70th Week alive in their physical bodies. Satan was the task manager during the last half of the 70th Week and influenced them all.  They still have choice, that is why Satan is able to turn many of them at the end of the 1000 years.  There is still freewill, but without Satan's influence.

Christ upheld everything when He was on earth during his first advent.  Nothing has changed with Christ and God and the Holy Spirit.  They are still ONE.

Have you thought that maybe Jerusalem is the center of Gods total creation.  He is just a arms reach away, yet in another dimension.  He is far, far away, yet very, very close.

Christ is roused out of His heavenly place to rule on this earth.  (Zech 2:13)

In Christ

Montana Marv

Hi Montana Marv,

OK, sorry I read you wrong. I thought you were saying that when Christ comes to the Mount of Olives that from then on He is on the earth. Seems like we agree on much of your answers. However, had you thought that if the Lord is centered at the New Jerusalem then His seat of power is below where Lucifer`s throne was in the third heaven. And as we know that the Lord has been empowered `far above all...in this age & the one to come,` then His seat of power needs to be above where Lucifer previously was.

Something to think about there, bro.

Marilyn.