Who makes sinners into saints?

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 it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
(Philippians 2:13) 

so, God makes a saint, both in will and in work. 
 

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎23‎/‎12‎/‎2015 at 10:26 PM, 1to3 said:

Boy all this intellectual talk and history is interesting and eye opening, but I guess I consider myself lucky to have never really got caught up in to the Catholic faith the way it is represented here in these pages.

Maybe I came fro a "cradle catholic family"  the emphasis for me was always on Christ Jesus.

 

Somehow through all my struggles with trying to find my way, God never abandoned me and kept picking me up and getting me back to His fold.

But also even though i still had a lot of learning and growing and letting go to do, I also never stopped asking God for repentance help and guidance.

My faith is in God through His only begotten Son Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit of God making His home in my heart.

 

Its really  unfortunate to read about all these add-ons over what the Word of God says.

I can understand why people are so mixed up, and don't know what to believe in and that many, many are closed to hear anything about the bible these days.

 

Many , people in the province of Quebec, have left the RCC and have become atheist.

The existing family members that I have are all atheists and most people who are my age or older who once grew up in the RCC or even Anglican or Lutheran, now don't really believe,

Some are just atheist, while others believe in all kinds or different philosophies mixed into their belief in God, where Christ Jesus is no longer the focal point of their faith or belief.

Its almost impossible as a christian to try and speak and explain things to these people.

I at least hope and pray that this side can be of help to a searching soul.

If you are searching, look into the holy bible , the King James is a reputable bible, (today there are so many bibles, some are not accurate), in the King James bible,there you will find who Christ Jesus was and IS and why He came here and why He allowed Himself to be crucified.

The book of John is a good gospel to begin with. That is where i began.

Also the book of psalms in the old testament , give a lot of wisdom and solace to the soul that is seeking God

My our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus open the eyes of those searching. Amen

Christ Jesus is our good shepherd .

John 10:1414

Christ Jesus said:

"I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, 15even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep."…

 

So to answer the question:

Who makes sinners into saints?

 

answer : Our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus

 

 

 

 

Just noticed this post .It is interesting for me as someone brought up in the RCC ,who does'nt hate it ,but knows that it is driving people who wish to have a relationship with Christ away , and in drifting, they often become atheists at least for a time . They are not listening deliberately ,or they are deaf to Jesus from all the other stuff they clog up their time with .

But 1 to 3, there is always hope for the 'atheists' as I am delighted to discover . My brother of 58 years at the time whom I had given up 'nagging' as he called it ,often getting mad enough to put the phone down on me ,when at the  end of a long chat I was about to say God bless and I corrected myself in saying ,"Oh I had bettter not say that as you are an atheist of course ,but he then said "no I'm not . Well I nearly fell off my chair .After so many years   of confrontations ,having given up 'talking about religion',he had heard . What had he heard  ? I had apparently said to him ,  you don't need to go to a Church (the RCC ) but just read about Jesus  ,and he had ,  and God had done the rest .

      Halleluja ,  et merci, mon Dieu . 

     And thank you 1 to 3 for this post .

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎27‎/‎12‎/‎2015 at 8:53 PM, 1to3 said:

Theres a  liitle flower,

Did you read the full chapter of Matthew 19 and 20?

Once again you come at me by asking me if Christ Jesus was good?

If you don't know that by now, may God help you and also help you understand Matthew 19 and 20 in its completeness .

“Why do you call me good? Only God is good.” This is what our Lord Jesus said to the wealthy young man in. Matthew 19:16-26

Why did our Lord say this? Was He denying His inherent deity as the Son of God? I recall a conversation I once had with a Jehovah’s Witness at my front door who tried to use this verse as “proof” that Jesus couldn’t possibly be God. Talking to me as if I were a slow-witted child he asked, “Now, you believe that God is good, right?” Yes, I agreed, God is good. “That’s right!” he said. “And so if God is good and Jesus said ‘don’t call Me good’ then how can Jesus be God?”

Jesus didn’t say, “Don’t call Me good” but instead had carefully asked the young man, “Why do you call Me good?” I then asked him if he thought it was right or wrong to call Christ Jesus good. He wasn’t sure what to say, so I continued, “I think we would both have to agree that Christ Jesus is good. That’s why mournful sinners were drawn to Him, that’s why righteous people loved Him, that’s why even His enemies were forced to invent false charges against Him at His trial. We can’t even say that Christ Jesus was relatively good in comparison to the rest of humanity, because the scriptures testify that there was absolutely no sin or unrighteousness in Him whatsoever. Jesus was and is entirely and completely good, with a goodness utterly indistinguishable from God’s goodness.”

I then concluded, “If Jesus is undeniably good, and we both agree that only God is good, then who must this Jesus be?”

Well I’m sorry to say that the unhappy man at my doorstep lost interest in our discussion after this and soon left. But returning to the gospel in Matthew 19, we can see that Christ Jesus was by no means denying His deity to the rich young man, or His goodness. If anything, He was confirming it. Reading this verse correctly we can see that our Lord was simply trying to make this man slow down and put the pieces of the puzzle together as to who this “good Jesus” must truly be.

And why would He do that in this particular case? There were many people who came to Christ Jesus, mostly asking for healing, and He usually healed them with only a brief word about the importance of faith or of living without sin. But here Christ Jesus spoke of much more, granting a sort of “mini-Theophany” by way of a subtle revelation of His divinity. Why did He do this? The answer might be found in the fact that this young man’s request was different from anyone else’s. He came, seeking not physical healing, but salvation.

“What good thing must I do to inherit eternal life?” Please notice the wisdom in our Lord’s response. He first spoke of the need to follow the commandments of God, or in other words, of the necessity to not bring further harm to one’s soul by doing those things which are contrary to eternal life. Many Christians today have a rather cavalier attitude about sin, feeling that as long as they are forgiven their actions are more or less irrelevant. But the effects of sin aren’t marked on some scoreboard in heaven, but upon our souls. Righteousness matters, and the commandments of God are important to us, or else Christ Jesus wouldn’t have said so.

Now this young man claimed to have kept all the commandments from his youth. This was apparently not a false boast, for we are told in Mark’s account that Jesus looked upon him and loved him when he said this. From Matthew’s gospel we can see that the young man was even further blessed to recognize that the commandments alone were not enough to save him, and so he asked with urgency, “What do I still lack?”

Have you ever thought to ask God, “Lord, what do I still lack?” Most of us would rather tell God what we think is missing from our lives, and be miserable until He gives it to us. But what a bold thing it is to ask, “Lord, what do I still lack?” We can begin to see why Christ Jesus loved this man. And indeed, here was a fellow about as ready as any person could be to receive the answer from Jesus Christ as to what he needed to gain eternal life.

And Christ Jesus told him, “One thing you lack. Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven. And come, take up the cross, and follow Me”. At this command, the man became sad and went away grieving, for he had great possessions.

Our Lord knew He was asking a difficult and unexpected thing of this young man. That is why He first graciously allowed the man a certain spiritual insight into His divine authority. “It is not simply your ‘good teacher’ asking this of you; it is your good God. Follow Me in both life and death, and you will live in My kingdom forever.” The inescapable tragedy of this story is that even with this kind and wonderful revelation, the man still turned his back on Christ Jesus and walked away.

Before we are tempted to think that Christ Jesus was too harsh, notice that the young man didn’t go away angry or offended. He went away grieving. You see, when people think they are being treated unfairly they generally get mad. But when they are asked to do what they know is right, but find that they are unwilling to make the sacrifice, their souls are filled with sorrow.

This is a grief that many Christians know all too well. There may be some impediment in our lives that we know Christ has asked us to give up, to leave behind, or to walk away from that we might follow Him in freedom. Or perhaps there is some good thing He has asked us to do that we are simply unwilling to obey. No matter how much we try to excuse, justify, or distract ourselves, that thing remains as a kind of barricade between us and our good Jesus. Sorrow of soul is the natural result, and this seems to be what was taking place in this young man’s heart.

 We were created to enjoy an unhindered communion with God, though the path to that through our spiritual darkness is long and difficult. If we must mourn in this life, let it be over our present fallen condition, tempered with hope in God’s mercy and healing. Let us not needlessly add to our sorrow by any stubborn refusal to follow Christ Jesus and obey Him. If we will be careful to do what is right, one day our mourning will be turned into joy, our tears into laughter. We can trust the good Christ Jesus, our God, to save us and have mercy upon us.

To the glory of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.

 

Thank you  .

[coheir]

1 Corin 1:2

Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

[Gargamel Bojangles]

Catholicism is apostasy.