Soaking Sessions

[missmuffet]

Is it the same thing as soaking prayer?

[thereselittleflower]

Just now, bopeep1909 said:

Is it the same thing as soaking prayer?

what is soaking prayer?

 

[missmuffet]

Answer: Since the 1990s there has been an increased focus on mysticism within various segments of Christianity. Bordering on the esoteric, these mystical experiences broaden the division between a "factual faith" and a "felt faith," and threaten to replace sound biblical teaching with emotion-driven response. Soaking prayer is one such mystical activity. It is described as resting in God's presence. This is accomplished by playing some gentle worship songs, either sitting or lying down, and praying short, simple prayers for an extended period of time, but otherwise keeping your mind free of other thoughts. At the point when you sense God's presence through some type of manifestation like tingling skin, a sensation of heat or cold, or even a gentle wind seemingly blowing through your body, you are to just "soak" in that presence.

Although that might sound a little strange to some, it does not immediately come across as being necessarily bad. However, the rule by which we measure our experiences in life is the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and when soaking prayer is examined accordingly, we find that it comes up wanting for biblical support. Nowhere in the Bible can a model of prayer be found that soaking prayer follows.

Prayer in its simplest form in the Bible is calling on the name of the Lord (Genesis 4:26), and in each instance where it is found in Scripture, it is descriptive of communicating with God. Soaking prayer starts that way, but quickly devolves into a trance-like meditative state. This is when soaking prayer ceases to be biblical and becomes more like a New Age practice or something an adherent of Hinduism would participate in.

There is no denying that experiencing the presence of God can be powerful and life changing. It is not the goal of soaking prayer that is biblically errant; it is its methodology. Soaking prayer focuses on obtaining a spiritual experience by seeking out the presence of God through mystical exercises. In this it is similar to ”contemplative prayer” and contemplative spirituality, which are equally unbiblical. Biblical prayer is talking to God with His will in mind (1 John 5:14). A biblically praying believer already understands that God's presence is always with him (Psalm 139:7; Matthew 28:20; 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Thessalonians 4:8; 2 Timothy 1:14), and he doesn’t need to experience any type of physical sensation to prove it.

http://www.gotquestions.org/soaking-prayer.html

[missmuffet]

9 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said:

what is soaking prayer?

 

Does the above explain it sis?

[thereselittleflower]

 Yeah it does, thanks.  

The problem is one can go too far either way.

 

[Guest]

Still, there are others out there that are complex or spirit-building (so calming and counter to the secular notion of mediation to steady one’s mind—in this case, just let loose and worship if one finds a soaking session that is suitable to oneself).

Edited May 6, 2017 by OneLight
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[Qnts2]

4 hours ago, thereselittleflower said:

Did that change in mind happen instantly?

 

That change in mind took about 4-5 months but when I understood, it was instantaneously. I didn't understand for 4 to 5 months and then I did in a matter of minutes.   

[thereselittleflower]

 So during those 4-5 months how did you handle the issue you were struggling with?

Did you continue to try to not do whatever it was?  Or did you give in and do whatever it was?

 

 

 

[Qnts2]

8 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said:

 So during those 4-5 months how did you handle the issue you were struggling with?

Did you continue to try to not do whatever it was?  Or did you give in and do whatever it was?

 

 

 

The 4-5 months was a time of learning. I had stopped all religious activity meaning, I stopped teaching, preaching, etc. I declined all invitations. I did nothing, as I felt God wanted me to do or not do. Doing nothing is not doing. But, I struggled because I did not understand why I was supposed to do no religious works.  

God loves with a perfect love. By doing works, a person can not earn more love from God, or more acceptance. God's love is perfect and there is nothing better then perfect love. God accepts based on Jesus work and there is no more work which can add to what Jesus did for us. That is what I fully came to understand, and that realization came in an instant, at which point, I understood what it means in scripture to rest. To rest is to rest from works which do not accomplish anything more then what Jesus did. So, the answer is to rest in Jesus completed work as sufficient.

[thereselittleflower]

14 minutes ago, Qnts2 said:

The 4-5 months was a time of learning. I had stopped all religious activity meaning, I stopped teaching, preaching, etc. I declined all invitations. I did nothing, as I felt God wanted me to do or not do. Doing nothing is not doing. But, I struggled because I did not understand why I was supposed to do no religious works.  

God loves with a perfect love. By doing works, a person can not earn more love from God, or more acceptance. God's love is perfect and there is nothing better then perfect love. God accepts based on Jesus work and there is no more work which can add to what Jesus did for us. That is what I fully came to understand, and that realization came in an instant, at which point, I understood what it means in scripture to rest. To rest is to rest from works which do not accomplish anything more then what Jesus did. So, the answer is to rest in Jesus completed work as sufficient.

So if someone comes to you and say  "I'm struggling with pornography"  what do you tell them to do?