Guest Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 hours ago, simplejeff said: That could be bad ((the worst possible)) news for billions of people TODAY. Somewhere in Revelation isn't it written the whole world is deceived ? Isn't that true already TODAY ? After the Rapture, maybe. I'm not deceived, nor are millions of people that are being converted every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 17 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Worshipping ANYTHING or ANYONE other than the one True God is blashemy, Daze, and will earn one a one way ticket to hell. You support the above statement with the below scripture? Try again. 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: Revelation Chapter 14 9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Tell me according to scripture how worshipping ANYTHING or ANYONE other than the one true God is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and consequently unforgiveable. Obviously, its a sin to worship anything or anyone other than God but explain to me how it's unforgiveable. Are you saying that all believers have only ever worshipped God their whole lives? That's what it sounds like to me, and that's a ridiculous notion. Be careful not to paint yourself into a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said: what is set in your mind What do people seek TODAY ? Watch them for a while if you don't know yet. Ask them right up front. They will say , without realizing the consequences even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Last Daze said: The only thing worse than setting someone up to fall is convincing them they can't get back up. People can get back up today, in this age. But during the Trib, there is no coming back from what we are talking about. Why are you still going on about this? Why don't you just say that you don't believe what Scripture is saying. It seems that you just don't want to believe it. But that doesn't make any difference. vI'm not going to waste any more of my or your time on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2016 what happens if 3 different things you just said aren't true ? what test is available to tell ? ((from Scripture)) TEST EVERYTHING. Don't accept anything as true without testing until verified. 3 minutes ago, Rick_Parker said: After the Rapture, maybe. I'm not deceived, nor are millions of people that are being converted every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted February 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 1 hour ago, MorningGlory said: That is really not applcable here. On what do you base your belief that, after taking the MOB, anyone can be saved? It's more applicable than you probably realize. Read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghtan Posted February 5, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 422 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 216 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2016 14 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Revelation Chapter 14 9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Rev 21:8 says "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, etc.-their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulphur." I'm sure we all know people who fall into those categories but have since repented and are therefore saved and hence will not be thrown into the lake of fire. Why can't the same apply to those who take the mark? Do you know any scripture that excludes them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 5, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 hours ago, ghtan said: Rev 21:8 says "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, etc.-their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulphur." I'm sure we all know people who fall into those categories but have since repented and are therefore saved and hence will not be thrown into the lake of fire. Why can't the same apply to those who take the mark? Do you know any scripture that excludes them? Consider how many people you could send to hell if you are wrong about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghtan Posted February 5, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 422 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 216 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 hours ago, other one said: Consider how many people you could send to hell if you are wrong about this... shouldn't those who insist there is no repentance after receiving the mark be more worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 5, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, ghtan said: shouldn't those who insist there is no repentance after receiving the mark be more worried? Revelation is pretty clear that anyone who takes the mark will go into the fire. I see no way out of it from scripture itself without adding human thought and reasoning that would change my mind. I'm 68 years old and have seen human logic create some interesting things. If people can't be forgiven for it then we should make sure not to take the mark for any reason, but if I am wrong then God can help them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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